No testimony from whistle blower

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Every American is entitled to a fair hearing.
    No one should be required to appear before a kangaroo court in America.
     
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    Nipplegate!!!! IMPEACH!
     
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    That's my point. People keep speaking about the need for full due process rights without recognizing that it is a spectrum of rights that applies to both procedural and substantive issues. And those rights are most protective when someone is facing a potential loss of life, liberty, or property. Trump can't even lose his job at this point.

    The Constitution Doesn’t Give Presidents Any Protections During Impeachment
     
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    Vote Democrat for Impeachment Show Trials!

    Yeah, that'll work. ;-)
     
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    Trump isn't required to appear at all. Impeachment will proceed just fine even if Trump never says another thing.
     
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    He most certainly did not immediately respond about military aid and then ask favor, your still missing those paragraphs, want to tell us why you refuse to admit the call moved on to other things including the UK President gushing over Rudy and later in the call Trump asked a favor. Let us know when Trump said I'm holding funding? Let us know when Trump said I'm holding military equipment purchases? Didn't happen and you can't find one damn witness to say that Trump told him/her that so you guys are parading people who felt like trump did. I knew your side was hypersensitive on feelings but damn man impeach a president because somebody felt something, wow.
     
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    Can you please quote the article defining "full due process".. It exists or it does not.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what Barr is, hopefully, doing.
     
  9. MrTLegal

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    Go rip someone for demanding that Trump be given full due process. I already explained the legal position to you.
     
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    Well then I guess another one of Trump's choices for director is too incompetent to get the job done. How many is that now? Only the best....
     
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    The right to a fair hearing is a fundamental human right.
    The whole world is watching the DP House hold a show trial to nullify one election and rig another.
     
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    The top of this clip is uninterrupted. It is the end of the Zelesnky portion and Trump's immediate response.

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    Sure. It's a House Democrat impeachment inquiry and that's how it should be defined. They'll be judged accordingly.
     
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    You let me know when Trump faces a trial where he can lose his life, liberty, or property and I will let you know when he is entitled to more due process. At this point, he can't even lose his job.
     
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    Last Tuesday worked so well for the side demanding Democrats be judged accordingly.
     
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    This isn't a trial until it hits the Senate. Is this the standard that you expect when you are being interviewed by the local police, under suspicion of a crime, trying to come up with evidence for a grand jury indictment? Because nobody gave our men in blue that 'fair hearing' memo.
     
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    You are the one using the "term".
     
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    Am I the only one you have seen use that term?
     
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    That i can recall.. yes..

    Which is why i asked you...
     
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    40 seats flipped.

    And if those were Trump districts, then why didn't a Trump candidate win?
     
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    And why I already explained to you that it is an improper method for explaining a full spectrum of procedural and substantive rights that are most protective when someone is faced with a proceeding that could result in loss of life, liberty, or property.

    Trump is not entitled to the broadest spectrum of rights because he can't even lose his job at this point.
     
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    The bullshit Mueller RUSSIA! Investigations perhaps?
     
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    IOW, Trump asks Ukraine to help with the DP investigation of interference in the 2016 election.
    Why would the DP complain about that? Unless the DP is covering something up. ;-)
     
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