Prosecutors in Giuliani investigation interested in talking to Ukrainian energy company

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna go with Occam's Razor. There are no crimes where you desperately want them to be.
     
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    Me to Trumps innocent.
     
  3. DaveBN

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    So Trump is not vindictive because you believe there to be people who are more vindictive? That doesn’t jive with the facts.
    More hypocrisy in favor of defending Trump? Looks to be the case.
     
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  4. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Yet he is going to be impeached. That doesn't jive well with your no crimes rhetoric.
     
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  5. Robert E Allen

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    Ehhh, your job to prove him guilty. It's not vindictive to defend yourself from false accusations.
     
  6. Robert E Allen

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    Nope Senate will acquit him, which is the same as a not guilty verdict..

    Then the house will go after him for something else because they ARE vindictive.
     
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    No i mean what i said.
     
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    Unlike most i dont have short term memory loss and i remember who this guy is...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preet_Bharara
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    A guy trump asked to stay on and then fired. I don’t see your point.
     
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    Not vindictive?

    He is the poster child for vindictive! He’s even proud of it.
     
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    Nope house Democrats ripped that poster down and posted one of themselves.
     
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    What does vindictive behavior have to do with proving him guilty of anything? Please stop deflecting if you don’t have an argument to make. You could just stop.
     
  13. The Mello Guy

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    What false accusations was he defendíng himself agaibst by attacking ambassadors?
     
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    The accusations that he tried to bribe Ukraine.
     
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    My argument is that he is innocent until proven guilty and the dems haven't proved a thing
    That requires everyone to treat him as though he were innocent.
     
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    Which of them said that? Can you post a quote?
     
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    No. They are performing their constitutional obligation to hold him accountable for wrongdoing.

    Unfortunately the R senators and Trump supporters don’t care about the constitution and will defend his corruption.
     
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    Odd how that requirement that “everyone treat him as though he were innocent” doesn’t seem to apply to dems.
     
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    there you go again assuming he is guilty.. it is up to the house democrats to PROVE he is guilty until then he is INNOCENT! Trump has nothing to prove the entire burden is on house democrats. so far they got nothing.. absolutely nothing..
     
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    dems are never innocent
     
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    Lock him up!
     
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    So you admit to just being a partisan hypocrite? Good to know, not that it’s a surprise. Most people don’t admit it.
     
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    The house doesn’t have to prove his guilt. It’s not a trial. That happens in the senate. Did you lose your pocket constitution or just burn it when trump won?
     
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    what are the house democrats doing then? they are NOT conducting an investigation.. they are trying to prove Trumps guilt and they cannot do it.
    he isn't as dumb as they are
     
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    They’re investigating to see if there is enough evidence to file articles of impeachment, and what they should be.
    Trumps proving his own guilt by ignoring subpoenas.
     
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