The Fair Vote

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by LafayetteBis, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    It's cute how you think that blurting out "strawman" makes some sort of argument.
     
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    It’s not an argument. I’m pointing out that you are making **** up and attributing it to me, then you are arguing against the **** you made up. I have no obligation to defend a position you make up for me. I will just continue pointing out when you do it.
     
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    I'm not attributing this to you. This has nothing to do with you. More electors voted for Trump. Again, nothing to do with you. Just a simple fact
     
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    They didn't choose her.
     
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    Of you do , this is just a game with you
     
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    Either move to an urban city and gain the political leverage your new neighbors enjoy, or stay among the fields, forests and farms and listen to the frogs and crickets and enjoy sitting under the bright stars. Where you live is a market driven choice. make one that fits your favored lifestyle, but you should have to sacrifice some your oversized political clout once every four years rather than steal it from someone else who does not get to listen to crickets and see the bright stars.
     
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    I like the Electoral College the way it is, but Thank You
    Although California is too weighty for a Winner Take All but, that's California business.



    Heaven Is Not A Democracy
    Democracy Is Not Heaven!
     
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    And again, that is a strawman. I never claimed Clinton received more EC votes. I correctly pointed out the American people voted for Clinton over trump by almost 3 million votes.
     
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    Almost 3 million more chose her than trump.
     
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    Pointing out when you make **** up and pretend I said it isn’t a game. I’m happy to discuss what I actually said with you. You just don’t seem to want to do that.
     
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    Huge!
     
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    You keep implying that you dont need the Constitution or laws and make it up as you go along
     
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    And that means what?

    3 million likes to exploit brown people and Asians for cheap vegetables and sweat shop goods at Walmart?

    3 million likes the nanny state?

    3 million likes free stuff?

    3 million likes guys in dresses in little girls bathrooms?

    3 million likes Obama phones?

    3 million loved Obama's apology tour?



    What does that mean????


    I guess it could mean alot of stuff, but winning the presidency of the USA is not one of them.
     
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    A surprisingly logical however flawed post, but:

    Precisely the reason why our founding fathers created an electoral college so that several huge mega-cities overflowing with Liberals do not dictate their will to the rest of us.

    Look at electoral map, my friend. It’s so red, you’d think they salvaged it from the filming of The Shining! :D
     
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    They also created a country where only white men got to vote. Not interested in your recreations of history.
     
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    Correction only white male landowners could vote it changed in the 1820s after the 12th was passed


    Edit: glad you changed it.

    Btw I always thought liberals where the founding fathers?
     
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    Recreation?

    Fine. Splain to me why our huge, RED (look at the map again) country must follow the desires of a few (and far in between) blue cities?
     
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    Nobody but the electors vote for the president.
     
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    No, that is a strawman.
     
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    That Americans chose Clinton, not trump for president.
     
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    Proven false. Electoral elect the president. Citizens vote for president.
     
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    Yet to become active then will end up in court because a State cannot apportion their votes based on other voters in other states. Appears to be a simple runaround of the Constitution.
     
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    No. Electors appointed by the states. Are you reading the US constitution?
     
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    Hundreds of millions of Americans vote for the president. That is reality. The president is elected by the EC some time after the election. That is reality.
     
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    Really? Vote for the president? Which mechanism in the constitution are you describing?
     

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