Tulsi Gabbard

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  1. Blaster3

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    if you put an apple in their mouth, they're more than willing to take it in the arse...
     
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    I really, really don't get why she hasn't caught on. She has personality, brains, wisdom, good looks, military experience, and guts. Not to mention the fact that she is my steady girlfriend.

    What?

    YES, SHE IS! GOD I HATE YOU GUYS.
     
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    as much as i'd like to see her naked, she's prolly a 'trojan horse'
     
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    how do you figure she is a trojan horse? What is she doing that is secretive? She is exposing the corruption in her party- right out there in the open. Until the dems get back to their roots of representing the working man, She also exposes the republicans in kind, they won't pass bills that they think would benefit the nation as it would be seen as a victory for dems as it is vice-versa.
     
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    by definition, a trojan horse means you don't see what's coming...

    edit: the presenter camouflages themselves, then poof... too late
     
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    Actually, she is freakin' solid muscle. Don't believe me. Go to YouTube and search "Tulsi Gabbard workout".
     
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    but what can she be hiding? her pushing the party and shining a light on the candidates can only make them stronger against Trump.

    You don't think trump would have hit Kamala on putting low income mothers in jail, or mayor pete on using troops to fight the cartel. or Warren not being experienced enough for being CIC?
    Bush Sr was the last president we had that was qualified for CIC. Clinton was not too bad, but Obama and Bush Jr were total disasters, while trump is just plain bad.
     
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    It's interesting that she is the most talked about Democratic candidate on this forum.
     
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    She has a cult following as she appears to be genuine. It is refreshing to see. She wants things that 75% of Americans want.

    1. We want people not to have healthcare and access to medicine.
    2. We want a secure border
    3. We want our troops home, and believe that we wasted 6 trill in the Mideast.
    4. We want our leaders not to lie to us.
    5. We want to fix our education system. K thru college.
    6. We want all americans to have an equal shot at success, and not a return to inherited privlilege
    7. We want to talk with our adversaries and reach common ground that we both can live with.
     
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    NOT to have?

    In the sense that if we all were sufficiently educated to know the perils of junk consumption, and the requirement to lead healthy lifestyles, then we all would be capable of looking after ourselves, as far as health costs are concerned? (given a well-functioning economy, in which we can all prosper and save, above poverty level?)

    Or is the 'not" a typo?
     
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    I think you made a typo in #1. "not"

    3. And yet her view is balanced and sensible. In her speeches she identifies Al Qaeda as an enemy that must be confronted. She's not really a dove, if you define a dove as someone who will not fight when necessary or as someone who will let our enemies damage us without fighting back. But she is absolutely clear about unnecessary wars.

    4. An admirable quality about her.

    If I were to add a #8, it would be that she's patriotic, as are most Americans.

    If I were to add a #9 it's that she respects all Americans, including the more conservative. There are no "deplorables" in her book. I think Americans are tired of Washington gridlock, and they want the two sides to work together.
     
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    Great post..
     
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    I don't think she has a cult following, but a following of genuine patriotic Americans who follow news and politics, I love her like Nikki and Palin , vibrant women that if given a chance could really bring this nation together after Bill, bush jr , Obama and Trump.
     
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    Given the evidence of the mass protests all around the globe, before the illegal Bush - Blair - Howard (Oz PM who lost office partly because of his support) Iraq war, we can say most people don't like unnecesary wars.

    And yet 'regular' leaders like those above (with Blair from the 'Left") still take us to war.
    It's becoming much more difficult for the likes of them nowadays.

    Tulsi's instincts - and awareness - are correct.
     
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    I just more people realize how special Tulsi is, ( no I don't want to split the Democrat ticket) but I want to be included once again into the democrat party..


    I am a JFK Democrat conservative. The party threw me away for radical policies
     
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    Right. It's not a cult. Her following comes from informed people, people who are really paying attention, rather than so many who simply rely on name recognition.
     
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    I know she came out of no where and I recognized last April, this girl has something.. I kept posting it on various political forums (so did others) she is the real deal like taylor swift was when she first got discovered in the main stream.
     
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    If you keep watching her demeanor, the way she talks, how bright she is on you tube videos she is not reading from teleprompters, she doesn't stutter ..

    Her mind is really quick
     
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    Thinking about this I don't know why the Democrats dont jump on her like they jumped on Obama?

    A well spoken black guy..


    Is she not colored enough?
     
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    I first noticed her in 2016. This speech got my attention. If you haven't heard it, it's worth the time. Remarkably, it was given in June of 2016, while Hillary Clinton was running for president, and Tulsi talks about Hillary in the speech. Hillary, of course, has never forgiven her. Neither has the Democratic establishment.

     
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    Thanks, it is weird/strange why Republicans like young minority intelligent women and Democrats like old white women for president..

    Do they control the power and narrative? You would think Hillary or Warren would be like sipping coffee and watch their grandchildren grow up
     
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    'yep
     
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    I'm an independent, not a Republican. I lean conservative on most things, but I agree with Tulsi 100% on foreign policy. Btw, I'm a peacetime vet, but my son is a Purple Heart vet of Iraq and Afghanistan. So, you see, her foreign policy is very real to me, for my family lived through the consequences of foreign policy. It is real to me. And I know she has lived through it too. And I respect her for having the integrity to speak her mind, even though Hillary was running for president at the time.

    What I think about the conservatives who like her is that they see someone who is genuine and who speaks from her own mind, rather than canned talking points given to her by speech writers and consultants. What she was talking about in 2016 is identical to what she talks about today. She hasn't drifted with the political winds like so many others do.

    They like the fact that she's patriotic. Last time I looked on her campaign website, there's a video you can click on in which she recites the Pledge.

    And, her message is that we're ALL Americans. There are no "deplorables" and tens of millions of people who should just be thrown away.

    These are all things we more conservative-minded people like about her.

    I am aware that she regards herself as a progressive. There are domestic issues that I would probably oppose her on. But really, those are matters for the Congress. Health care, education, etc, are matters for the Congress. We conservatives may vote in conservatives to Congress so that our voices are heard on those issues. But one thing a president has a lot of control over is foreign policy, and so that has got to be right. For me, I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat whose foreign policy is wrong. Been there, done that, and I've lived through the consequences. Never again. We can fight out our battles on domestic policy in the Congress, but the President has got to have foreign policy right or he/she doesn't get my vote.

    For many reasons, Tulsi is the best of the Democrats, by far.
     
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    Yes that is the cult. Genuine Americans that want to put the country ahead of party politics. Not cavorting with porn stars, grabbing women by the ass and trying to divide the nation into factions and threating other nations by putting men and women in combat that he himself was either too scared or beneath him to do. She refuses to play identity politics and thinks people who have different opinions from her can prove them selves to be right.
     
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    Well said, When Trump and Bolton started sabre rattling over Venezuela last year, she correctly called them out on it. She is a progressive in the sense that she believes the nation can play a positive role in citizens lives and it is the nation that should lead and not corporations. She believes that Business has a role to play in our society but multinational corporations do not have a role in our government.
     
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