Intelligence Panel Releases Trump Report

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    Ballpark question. Why has the US ceased asking Ukraine to investigate Burisma?
     
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    Then we have President Zelensky, there never was Quid pro quo.
     
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    You should read it. The easiest way is to read the summary and if you don't want to believe it do a word search of the big document for the testimony.
     
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    I told you I was only doing one look up for you.
    But a hint:
    They were running around looking for a way to make the hold legal.
     
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    Once again a crude fear laden post. The post itself while attempting to write off my post ironically winds up having no connection to my post and very little connection to this thread. There's not even the slightest attempt to prove why my post should be written off even as this post demonstrates its own nonsensical and Trumpian twisted logic.
     
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    Second hint:
    DOD announced the release on June 18th.
     
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    I would hope so. LOL
     
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    No place left to make money.
     
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    Such investigations consume plenty of time so we expect that President Zelenskiy is in the process of investigating all corruption, including Burisma. The main problem as I see it is not what Burisma has done, but what Joe Biden did when he extorted the former government of Ukraine with a threat to keep a billion dollars out of Ukraines hands used for Ukraine Security and boasted that it only took 6 hours for Ukraine to cave into his demands.

     
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    It's called evidence. And there is no evidence of bribery. No evidence of an extortion. And the Republicans looked and asked very hard, as have I for physical evidence of an actual bribe. The difference between evidence, and "2+2=4" is very substantial.

    And no, no one else testified to that, only Sondland did, and then he had to recant his OWN testimony, publicly, LIVE in front of us all.
     
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    Okay.....so why has he made no announcement that he is investigating Burisma? That will tale less than 30 seconds of his time.

    As for that matter of Joe Biden......done to death. No issue. Biden leveraged US aid to oust Shokin, and he did so with the permission of the Administration, and the endorsement of the EU and major World finance bodies. It was not done for his personal political gain.
     
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    Where in his testimony did Sondland say Trump "demanded" something from Ukraine?
     
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    Right, just like the billions of dollars Hunter Biden got went to charity, not to his own sex dolls. Shokin gave a disposition saying that yes, he was told to stand down on the case by US Authorities. If it actually gets to a Senate case, that disposition is going into the public record.

    What did Joe Biden know, when did he know it? It's worse than E-mail gate by far.
     
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    You're going to have to be more specific

    1) The release of what?
    2) How is the DOD releasing funds and not the Treasury?
     
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    Biden had no jurisdiction over Ukraine. As to why no announcement? Check on a Ukraine site to learn why no announcement. Why all the diversion tactics by Democrats or those carrying water for our Democrats? Such as we must please the EU using American dollars?
     
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    I don't know why you insist on responding to my post without ever addressing any of the words in the post...
     
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    That's not evidence.

    That's Sondlands personal opinion based on his belief. That's not based on what actually happened.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    All Republicans in the Senate need to call as the witness is President Zelensky. This ends the Democrats case.
     
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    Do you understand how the burden of proof works? I didn't ask you to answer my question, but you were the one who was eager to share information. If you're going to make claims, its your job to substantiate them. It's not my job.
     
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    What billions of dollars?

    Yes, Shokin did issue a statement that he stood aside because the Ukraine President imposed upon him to do so...'take one for the team' so to speak. So, he did. There is no 'disposition' or, as you likely meant, deposition from Shokin.
     
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    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/australia
     
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    Correct, but he did, on behalf of the USA, have jurisdiction over that aid.

    I don't speak Russian. You?

    It is you diverting into Biden, when he is not the Topic.
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...asked-visa-ousted-ukraine-prosecutor-n1068961

    I also want a visa for this guy, and we can give one to President Zelensky(though I respect Zelensky's wish, do you remember what it was? To stay out of American Politics. Too bad our country doesn't give a rat's ass about diplomacy anymore.)
     

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