Is this the real reason why the Far Right distrusts the Government?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucifer, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Those DUTIES include UPHOLDING the LAW of the LAND!

    Your BLOTUS has been VIOLATING the Laws of the Land which amount to HIGH CRIMES for which he is being impeached.

    That is HOW the Constitution works because your BLOTUS is NOT above the Law of the Land.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Oh good grief. That's not even close to reality.
     
  3. Lesh

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    No. He is not. He has enormous powers...and is subject to Congressional oversight if he ABUSES those powers...and he is doing that almost daily
     
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    What has this to do with anything?
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Utter nonsense. It is the Democrats who openly want to destroy the Constitution so they can obtain total one-party rule. Obama readily admitted this in 2008 when he declared there would now be a "fundamental change in the United States of America." What do you think he was referring to, painting the white house blue maybe??????
     
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    Relying on Daphne and Sophia ( the authors of your OP article) seems.. well... unsuccessful. I bet you related to the narrative for sure, as it rings all of the bells democrats/progressives run towards. At some point though, you have to start admitting that these failings that you identify are inherently problems within your own voting bloc, and not exhibited by your political opponents. Racism, Sexism, Russia, those are your party's sins, not anyone else's....
     
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    I didn't click the link but my general statement would be as follows:

    I don't trust my government to police itself in the same way they police their constituents.

    100 years ago I might have answered differently but I wouldn't have had access to any info other than my local newspaper and rumors at the pub.
     
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    Yeah, right! I suppose that is why they itemized about two dozen things as the only matters the federal government could do, and why they inserted the 10th amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
     
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    The bigger issue is that Congress is and had been derelict of duty for quite some time. It basically has been passing off its responsibility to the Executive.
     
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    Precisely, the distrust of government comes from a knowledge of history. This is why -- in my opinion -- the Left has gained control of the educational process in this nation, to rigidly control and direct what young minds learn about. Increasingly a study of history becomes instead a social studies course across this nation, with no real history learned or retained.
     
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    Completely agree on education. Free college would be the final nail in the coffin of desire for freedom.
     
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    Liberals used to distrust government but now they embrace it. What changed?
     
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    I'm seeing a massive uptick of mistrust in government agencies here at PF since the dawn of Trump. The intelligence agencies are now seen as corrupt. Even the military seems to be under attack. The common denominator is Trump - whoever he attacks must not be trusted.
     
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    I agree with your thoughts, but I think we must distinguish between civil government and times of war.

    When war comes along things change, but the Constitution was designed for times of peace, even though it specifically addresses war.

    By way of the AUMF, the government has put us in a situation of perpetual war for any specious reason POTUS can bring. AUMF should be repealed forthwith.
     
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    :applause:

    Typical abusive relationship behavior!

    The BLOTUS is ISOLATING his supporters from any outside agencies that would expose him as the SHYSTER that he really is.

    He is also gaslighting them with bovine excrement like "fake news" and denigrating the agencies of government.
     
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    Could we, please, deiine the term "Far Right" before proceeding the discussion? I think it is important to define ambigious terminology, so that all participants know what it it is that is being discussed to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

    If you by "Far Right" mean how it is conventionally used, i.e. Nazis, it is not true at all that they distrust government as their whole ideology is about building a strong State with a strong leader and really the very same thing applies to Facism.
     
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    More fake news.
     
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    Of course WaPo is the objective source you cite. Funny.

    Lord Acton says it all. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". So when Pelosi set out to punish the financial industry for the stupidity of Democrats in causing the meltdown in 2007, 2008, and 2009, her plan was to curtail credit card swipe fees. VISA put her on a special rewards program, using her husband to wash the money. The Pelosi's made the cut for the VISA IPO ,,, putting the brakes on any legislation that might curtail the booty the Pelosi's made off with at the expense of every American who used a credit card.
     
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    I would define the Right as "leader centric" and the Left as "the people centric". Thus, far Left is a pure democracy, or mob rule. Far right is rule by a single powerful individual. In other words, a dictator.

    Personally I think both extremes are quite destructive. That society is best served with a balance between the two.
     
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    I find the denigrating of military personnel especially disgusting. And if a dem leader had dared to bad mouth any of them there'd have been an uprising from the Right.

    What we are seeing is a lack of individual thought or consideration of the issues...Trump has become a true pied piper!
     
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    I think the government should be not to invasive or too burdensome. However I think there is a need for a government to manage the commons. The roads, schools, water supply, the airways, parks. And, of course national security, which includes interacting positively with other countries. I also think that government has a role to play, to ensure that predators within our society are prevented from bleeding others dry.

    The original idea of the country was to tax wealth and commerce to pay for the administration of the commons. Yet over the years, the tax burden has shifted towards the middle class. When the wealthiest pay a lower tax rate, their share of the tax burden is lessened, meaning that of all tax collections, it is the middle class that is paying an ever increasing share. It is they who ultimately owe, for the increases in debt, that were required to allow the reduction of tax collections caused by the tax cuts.
     
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    I'll admit, I laughed out loud at that one! You must have studied history in Putin's Russia.
     
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    My distrust of government comes from seeing corruption (and growing up just post-Watergate).
     
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    Nonsense. Americans who distrust government do so because government is incompetent and corrupt.
     
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    We were talking about the consolidation of power leading to tyranny. Keep up
     
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