Article II Sec 1:1: Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, How does the text of the Constitution support your assertion that framers intended the state legislatures to allocate the EVs themselves?
The NPV is an idea. The actual legislation is not the compact, but rather legislation written for that state. Therefore, they do not violate the compact clause. The "most" is a majority of votes. It is based on the popular vote.....
Call me crazy, but mob rule with 50 individual states seems like a bad idea. Mob rule is why South Africa and Zimbabwe are starving to death.
Without someone enforcement mechanism between the states involved it will collapse. With an enforcement mechanism it becomes a compact between the states involved and unconstitutional.
"most" can be a plurality. How didn all the states insure all the others will hold to their agreement?
Like in Oregon? https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2019R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB870/Enrolled Or California? http://archive.nationalpopularvote.com/resources/bills/CA-AB459-20110413-amended-v97.pdf How about NY? https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s5478/amendment/original The legislation passed by the states makes reference to the NPVC "agreement" between and "compact" among the states in question, and enters those states into that agreement/compact. Thus, Article 1 Sec 10:3 applies. Plurality and majority are not the same thing. How does a winner with 41% of the vote fit into the concept of the NPVC?
Bluesguy, as far as I am concerned (as far as anyone SHOULD be concerned) hypocrisy is hypocrisy whether the product of someone with whom I agree on most things or the product of someone with whom I seldom agree on anything. I have no idea of where you are trying to go with this.
How is that dummy going to eliminate the electoral college as President when she has made no effort to get rid of it as a Senator?
How disingenuous can you get? The EC has never been premised this way. Why create the white rabbit argument that it has?
@Steve N 1) Warren NEVER said, what you have mistakenly claimed in the OP Title. Warren NEVER used the word "WILL". Here is her Exact Quote: My goal is to get elected—but I plan to be the last American president to be elected by the Electoral College. I want my second term to be elected by direct vote. 2) Since abolishing the EC would require a Constitutional Amendment, it would be IMPOSSIBLE. Any Everybody (Already) KNOWS That. Since the GOP has control of so many State Legislatures. 3) There is a difference between saying "I WANT to Eliminate the EC" and "I WILL Eliminate the EC". Your OP Title is completely FAKE (and Mischaracterized). Do you see the DIFFERENCE Between the Following 2 Statements: 1) "I Want to sleep with Margot Robbie" 2) "I WILL sleep with Margot Robbie" ^That is why your Blatant Mischarcaterization of Warren's Statement in the OP is an Epic FAIL. Carry on.
“Most”. It’s simple, I’m not sure how that’s confusing. Whoever gets the”most” votes of those getting votes
I live in Iowa and its heavily red right now. They wont enact this because they think it’s a liberal idea. What really confuses my about the opposition to this coming from the right is that they support the idea of the electoral college, and support the idea from the founders that the electoral college is supposed to give equal representation to each state, when in reality the original idea of the EC from the framers no longer exists because each state has changed their rules to be winner take all. So for the 41% of people who voted for Trump in 2016 in California alone, he got no EC votes. The same in New York. Those people votes did not count, plain and simple. I would think you would be more enraged by that than anything else
Of course, I wouldn't expect many Trump Supporters (or the RW) to agree. The GOP KNOWS that if the EC is abolished they will never have a chance to elect another President.Trump The only hope that the GOP has is to hope that they can game the EC (while, as expected, losing the Pop. Vote).
