Catherine Herridge, now at CBS, devastates ‘Whistleblower’s’ legitimacy

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ahahahahahaha. I see you haven't been paying attention.



    Oh please. He directly asked a foreign power to launch phony investigations into both a wild arsed totally debunked conspiracy theory and his most feared domestic political opponent. That's a crime. No ifs ands or buts about it.
     
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    I'm truly astounded that CBS hired Herridge. Generally working for Fox disqualifies you from the mainstream media forever.
     
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    ahahahahahahahahah I see you have nothing of substance to add.





    ahahahahahahahahahaha Nope, nothing phony about the investigation we, my country, STILL need to begin if they haven't already and it's not a crime it's a duty of the President to protect our national interest, who we are aiding and what is happening to that money if there is a appearance of corruption to investigate and make sure it ceases. You don't want that for your country, what little yours does to help other countries, fine. We get to decide here.

    But if you want to claim it is a crime then cite it from U.S. Code. Which Chapter and Section.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What laws? well these two are a start.

    https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52 section:30121 edition:prelim)


    https://www.fec.gov/regulations/110-20/2019-annual-110#110-20-f


    I agree that its the President's responsibility to protect the national interest which is why he's being impeached because he jeopardized that very same interest by withholding the funding in the first place.

    Ironically, the trumpian defense that the aid was held up because of the Dear Leader's concerns about corruption is true. Trump was so concerned that he corruptly demanded a foreign government investigate his political rival in order to get necessary funds and vital diplomatic support as that ally confronted an existential threat from the very same government that attacked the US elections to help trump in the first place.

    Odd he'd specifically resurrected the idiotic and wholly debunked Crowdstrike conspiracy theory, while erroneously suggesting a Ukrainian owned the company. How stupid is that and what do you think the Ukrainian president thought when trump started spouting such nonsense? WTF, ...., anyone?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When posters allege a crime was committed by Trump, on what basis do they claim that? Schiff alleges his mind is not made up and he is struggling to learn the truth. So how can a poster by merely reading claim Trump did this or that?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of that is logical.

    This is why. Obama had constantly refused to arm Ukraine. Trumps major expense was arms to Ukraine. Ergo if Ukraine was in no danger by Obama refusing to arm Ukraine, this seems logical to say that Trump handed over weapons that were not needed. I believe Democrats argue the arms sent were a couple hundred miles away.

    Point being Ukraine was in no danger from Russia. I do not believe any Russian Tanks operated by Russian armor forces has been detected in Ukraine.

    Interesting the conspiracy theories against Trump have not been proven. I think it is up to the Senate to prove or disprove.
     
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    By merely reading..
     
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    I'm not sure. To the extent that OMB is executing legislation passed by congress they probably do; otherwise, not.
     
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    The intelligence and judiciary committees are not interested in facts. If anything is derogatory to Trump, opinion and wishful thinking is just fine.

    If the witnesses and documents are privileged they will not have to testify or be turned over to the senate.
     
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    Gotta admit, you have your Lefty talking points down to a tee. :roflol:
     
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    Cite the relavent parts and the FEC said there were no campaign finance violations so don't even go there.


    Another Democrat canard our national security was never placed in jeopardy by insuring the aid would not be falling into corrupt hands as previous.

    No irony the State Department during the Obama administration was well aware of the corruption in Ukraine but did nothing about it and if a political rivals son may be involved OH WELL he has no immunity from investigation for blatantly apparent probable cause. We, my country, STILL needs to investigate it and you have no say in that matter do you.
     
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    If the cops screw up the baf guy goes free even when he's guilty.. if you don't do things right. It's you're own damn fault.
     
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    Prove it!
     
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    No, only the things that can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Which means just about everything in this case.
     
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    This isn’t a criminal proceeding
     
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    But Trump has been accused of a crime hasn't he. Or is this simply a witch hunt that's been ongoing since Trumps election?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Exactly!

    The Democrats haven't provided any crimes that Trump has committed.
     
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    OMG.

    You mean the 15 or so witnesses that have refused subpoena's to testify on Trump's absurd notion of "absolute immunity".
    You mean the 80 specific documents subpoenaed that the WH has refused to turn over?

    Yep I agree they will be turned over in the senate and the story will crystalize into one bright shiny trumpian turd.
     
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    Yes but impeachment is not a criminal Convcition even if he’s convicted in the senate.
     
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    They have, but it still isn’t a criminal proceeding, he doesn’t go to prison if he gets convicted by the Senate
     
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    What crimes?
     
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    Meaning what? That impeachable offenses do not have to be proven? Is simple suspicion good enough?
     
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    You agree? How nice. All I said is the senate at an impeachment trial cannot demand and get privileged documents or witnesses if that is Trump's choice.
     
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    Oh, when did they say that? Eliciting a benefit from a foreign government is explicitly against the law. Period.



    Yes I mean all those national security and diplomatic experts spout canards all the time. Imagine them getting their knickers in a knot. And certainly appearances mean nothing at all. I get that this particular bumpersticker is entirely predicated on the ignorance of the believer.



    Now its that Obama did nothing about the corruption but Biden did. OMG. You are hilarious in your mental contortions.

    The only thing NOT in dispute about this impeachment is the facts. Its totally ironic. And totally nice whatabout omaba. Seems obsession with the past at least makes the present clustermuck bearable for the Dear Leader and his faithful.
     

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