We Will rebuild the Middle Class

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  1. WillReadmore

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    The power of the president has grown over time by degrees.

    We had the ever increasing partisan pwer of the FBI, COINTELPRO, etc.

    Now, we have the president declaring himself above checks and balances, immune to action related to foreign action in our elections, and acts in affront to congressional oversight that put Nixon to shame.

    This WILL continue as long as we choose to do nothing about it.

    The next president WILL have the powers that Trump leaves - regardless of who wins that election. And, there is no reason to suspect it will end their.

    Our democracy is FIRST defended by the people. And, if we choose not to defend it, it WILL evaporate.
     
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    Dude - I've very wel aware of how the EC works!

    And, your attempts to sell the idea that the system isn't heavily weighted to the places where nobody lives are easily answered by anyone who actually can do the math.
     
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    DC has no voting representation in either the Senate or the House.

    Yet DC has more citizens than Wyoming and mroe citizens than Vermont.

    Beyond that, DC isn't even legally allowed to pass its own budget!!

    You really failed on that one, didn't you!
     
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    Yes, they never happened. That's trivially true, seeing as how they're counterfactuals. What point are you trying to make? Do you have something against counterfactuals?
     
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    So what ??? Call your Congressman and call for a Constitutional Convention to change the Constitution.
     
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    They are non factuals. They never happened. It’s silly to discuss them.
     
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    You don't need stuff from China to live "happy and prosperous". Unless what you mean by "happy and prosperous" has more to do with the stuff you have than with your relationships and own internal mental state.

    There are profound passages in the New Testament. They're the ones the Christians routinely ignore because they're so hard to do: don't judge people, and forgive them.
     
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    Counterfactual Reasoning: A Basic Guide for Analysts, Strategists, and Decision Makers, The Proteus Monograph Series, Volume 2, Issue 5
    Authors: Noel Hendrickson, Ph.D.
    Date Published: 20081017
    Counterfactual reasoning is the process of evaluating conditional claims about alternate possibilities and their consequences. This monograph discusses the need for a comprehensive system of counterfactual reasoning to establish whether underlying assumptions are plausible. Such a system would have immense potential for analytic transformation as it would unite or replace a series of existing techniques of assessing alternate possibilities.

    https://csl.armywarcollege.edu/Publications.aspx
     
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    Declaring himself above checks and balances by acting in accordance with the concept of the separation of powers and asking the courts to decide ??? Why did the Democrats drop their subpoena of John Bolton instead of taking the matter to court ???
     
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    Wasting time thinking about things that never happened is also known as mental masturbation.
     
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    DC isn’t a state. It’s a federally run district outside of any state. Capitol Hill passes the budget for the city they are in.
     
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    The juice, cheap Chinese goods, ain't worth the squeeze, which is millions and millions of American jobs and all the payroll taxes and other taxes those jobs brought in.

    He who sees the most of the gorgeous, remote parts of the American landscape wins.
     
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    Why would Republicans scream about the a loss in a game played by the rules known to everyone?
    They aren't Democrats, you know.
     
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    ???

    These subpoena cases are already being addressed, as they are part of the supporting evidence for the impeachable offense of obstruction of congress.

    Spending resources on numerous subpoena cases just doesn't make sense - especially when our AG is part of the obstruction.
     
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    Not surprising you don’t understand that. Following the rule of law is something not understood nor practiced by progressives.
     
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    There have been comments on fairness in this thread.

    I'm just pointing out that Republicans are absolutely NOT interested in democratic representation.

    DC citizens have NO congressional representation and they are prevented from passing their own budget/tax plans.

    Anyone vaguely interested in a democratic republic like we claim to be would see this as simply preposterous.
     
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    Oh, really?? Are you sure???

    Oh wait ... I said that!!
     
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    Where? Certainly not in the post I quoted from you. Shall I quote it again?


    Hmmm nope I don’t see you mentioning that they are a federal run city at all.

    You quoted someone saying every state is fairly represented then went on a diatribe about DC saying he failed.... no he didn’t. DC isn’t a state.
     
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    Most dont know what .form of govt we have since the change into oligarchy in the 90s. when Clinton embraced the banking and corporate vision for Americans.



    If you vote does not reflect this reality it is utterly irrelevant and wasted on folly.
     
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    Most dont know what .form of govt we have since the change into oligarchy in the 90s. when Clinton embraced the banking and corporate vision for Americans.



    If you vote does not reflect this reality it is utterly irrelevant and wasted on folly.
     
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    So what ?? Change the Constitution if you don’t like it.
     
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    There is no "rule of law" that suggests Bolton must be prosecuted.

    This is true in general, too. Law enforcement/prosecutors are not required to prosecute all crimes they know about.
     
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    ARe you suggesting I did you a disservice by not explaining that to you? What else do you need help with?
    The point I made is that US citizens are not all fairly represented. I pointed out that there were more serious issues with fairness than were being discussed.
     
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    There is a rule of law that recognizes the separation of powers and executive privilege. Conflicts between the Legislature and Executive branches are settled by the Judiciary.
     
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    Change the Constitution.
     

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