Adam Schiff obtains, releases personal phone records........

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    So far I've seen no evidence that there was any kind of unreasonable search and seizure. We don't even know if subpoenas were involved, as I pointed out.

    Parnas is perfectly free to release his call records to whomever he wants to, for example. No subpoena is required if he gives it over voluntarily. Such records would show his calls to and from Nunes.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If true this creates a gaping hole in the Constitutional intent to prohibit warrant-less searches by the government vis-a-vis "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, .... against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause..."

    Without an independent judiciary involved as the sole "finder of fact" (judge or jury) the process corrupts.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Schiff will walk away from this with ease. Rudy and Nunes are in the schitt, large."


    And that is why Schiff put those call logs in his fairytale. So a false narrative could be created.
     
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    Schiff accuses Trump of acting like a king, then HE acts like one and does this. Where is the ACLU?
     
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    Didn't analysis of the "evidence" provided by Schiff turn out to be factually wrong and another example of Schiff lying for his own gain?
     
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    Rudy is under federal investigation.
    RW lawyer Rivkin is welcome to his opinion, but it doesn’t mean he’s right.
     
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    He released metadata, the very thing he railed against previously. Like Pelosi and Nadler saying partisan impeachment is illegitimate, Schiff has turned a 180 on his own principles. At least Trump is exposing the democrats for what they are, hypocrites for political gain.
     
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    It happens all the time (from both parties).

    Politics 101.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing like making excuses for hypocrisy but to be expected. Hypocrisy is the dem way of life.
     
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    I do expect legal actions to come, but not the ones you are thinking about.
    I expect Rudy to be indicted and Nunes to be disgraced... Again.
     
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    He is a party to that investigation.
     
  12. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Trump wants them to hurry, you want them to slow down. This may be the only talking point your out of sync with.
     
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    Can I have your phone?
     
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    For what to spy on my records like shiff for brains?
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *crickets*
     
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    Your opening sentence above is spot on.

    At this time, no-one out here knows, and speculating is a waste of time.

    Any supposition, inference or implication gleaned from documents released without sworn provenance, explained collection process or affidavit establishing chain of custody is meaningless. Frankly this isn't evidence, as presented.

    I can see yawning gulfs in veracity in its presentation. The first thing that piques concern is the labeling of the supposed call logs. I see an odd format. These are offered as call-logs from AT&T. Number X called Number Y. How and who replaced the numbers with names? It erroneously implies as fact that named person x called and spoke with known person y.

    The above alone suggests to me that we are seeing manipulated data if not complete fabrications.
     
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  17. ronv

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    You missed an exception.

    (9)
    to either House of Congress, or, to the extent of matter within its jurisdiction, any committee or subcommittee thereof, any joint committee of Congress or subcommittee of any such joint committee;
     
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    LOL, of course Trump wants them to hurry. It shows how desperate they are and how loony they have become.
     
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    Political assassination of a president?
     
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    Now, why is Schiff targeting a journalist?

    I wonder if it has anything to do with this:

    These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story
     
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    That does not show up in 522.
     
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    Call-logs only show numbers connecting with numbers. I'd like to know how, and who, replaced the numbers with individuals.
     
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    Records show number to number connection. Who replaced the numbers with names, it wasn't AT&T.
     
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