The Bible. A problem with interpretation.

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  1. Margot2

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    We are getting a gibberish defense.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must be more explicit. John 8 covers an awful lot and if that is what you are referring to I don't know where to begin. It is all true and valid and not contradictory to anything I have said. I would refer you to Ephesians 5, the entire chapter for guidance on husbands and wives. Matthew 22:23-33 Jesus and the Sadducee converse about marriage. Husbands and wives. Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Susan. You'd have to be blind not to see the context of marriage between one man and one woman. When Jesus addressed divorce, Matthew 5: 31--32, He most definitely implied marriage is between one man and one woman. Show me anywhere in the entirety of scripture where marriage is between same sex unions.
    As a rule, I don't cite scripture unless a poster, like yourself, does so 1st. There are a vast number of mockers that completely discount it's credibility here so it would be to no avail. If you are going to cite scripture, you must do it in it's entirety and in the spirit of which it is intended. In Timothy it is stated "scripture is not for a private interpretation".
     
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    ToddWB said:
    ”You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
    John 8;44
     
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    Have you studied Ezekiel and to whom and why these words were spoken? Have you studied Exodus and done the same??? Are you aware of the situations spoken to in these verses?? Are you aware of the separation of time and circumstance between Ezekiel and Moses leaving Egypt?
    Are you aware there are countless mockers that pour over scripture to present these so-called contradictions just to try and invalidate the Word of God?
     
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    There is truth there and it probably does apply to the drive to redefine marriage. In fact....I am sure it does!
     
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    Yes.. I have read and studied.. The contradictions are REAL and cannot be dismissed by some nonsense about "reading physically"
     
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    Temptation
    “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” — James 1:13

    “And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham…” — Genesis 22:1
     
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    yes, interpretation is a bias of sorts, aimed at justifying the individuals want in beliefs...

    language amid the times of the writings is also key, it's known as 'context', and context is usually tossed aside to fit today's situations...

    btw, it is not the word of god rather the writings/rantings of mortal men... zero proof 'god' ever spoke or commanded anything at any time...
     
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    Red herring - you are comparing two different styles of writing separated by hundreds of years. Do the Hindu contradictions appear side by side?
     
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    I have no interest in Hindu.. What are you talking about?
     
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    Okay, forget the Hindu part - if a liberal says two things that appear to contradict each other they probably are contradictory.
     
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    Haven't you been following along?

    This is aside from the fact that the one of the scriptures you quoted was Hebrew translated into English and the other was Greek translated into English.
     
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    When you speak gibberish you shouldn't be surprised.
     
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    The Bible has been redacted and amended many, many times. Its only natural there are contradictions and anachronisms.
     
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    No, it hasn't, and it doesn't. It contains three different languages translated into English (in our case) and is made up of several different styles of literature and poetry. It's not easy for government school graduates to fathom, especially the ones who refuse to take advice.
     
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    Government schools? I didn't go to any government schools.

    What you are claiming is that the Bible is the word of God, but the translations aren't.
     
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    Translation is not interpretation, it is an attempt to make the written word understandable to those who do not speak a specific language, not an attempt to tell you what they "really" meant when writing it.

    We even have at this date "interpretations" of what a politician really said or meant in a speech last week. And it is usually diametrically opposed to what was actually said, favoring the views of the one doing the interpreting. Let alone what may have been written and interpreted hundreds of times from the past.
     
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    Are you claiming that it is the word of god ? If that is to be believed (which I don't) there would be no need for translation and revisions or interpretations.
     
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    So just trading one instance of blindness for another. Got it.
     
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    It is pretty silly to claim that God wrote the Bible but has no power over the translations.
     
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    Also, I'll check the Septuagint later, but I'm 90% sure that when the Hebrew was translated into Greek they used the same word for Earth as was found in the NT verse you reference.
     
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    You would know more about that than I would.
     
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    What is it with you people? If you worked as hard trying to understand as you do trying to not understand you'd get somewhere.

    I've said all I'm going to say, you don't want answers, you want to argue.
     
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    Why did you bring up government schools? I never attended any government schools.
     
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    Trust me, human beings can screw up anything, even the Word of God.
     

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