German Russian Gas Pipeline to Europe Faces Sanctions Under U.S. Defense Bill

To be honest, not alone. Russia isn't the hobgoblin current US political rhetoric claims. Russia isn't poised to dash into Germany. She's been plinking around Donbas for 4 freaking years, the obvious goal being border stabilization.

I'm just not seeing a head long invasion across the grassy steppes of Ukraine into and through Poland then swimming the Oder to Germany. Russia doesn't have the capability nor does She have the desire IMO.

Sobo makes a fair argument about sovereignty, this is Germany's call.

 

So you are saying Germany will not support it's Allies but instead will become reliant on Russia by choice.

 

Germany is nuclear capable. They have the technology and materials necessary to build nuclear weapons quickly.

More likely, they just need to assemble the existing components. If not France will lend 'em a few, UK too.

 

Our banking and corporate govt does not care. Only our ruling elite matter. They owe allegiance to no nation and run tthings in DC.

We lost our republic.

Now you can make some sense out of it.

 

Germany already bent the Knee when they begged for Mercy to the United States and the rest of the Allied Forces that clobbered the Nazi's back in WWll, You Germans should consider yourselves lucky we didn't just we didn't all load you up onto Trucks and ship you all off to Siberia for the atrocities your country committed. If the United States decide to charge you more for our LNG, then you're going to Pay it and say Thank you. Germany is a Puppet of the United States and if we say Jump, you ask how High.

 

Awesome! Then you can pay for your own defense.

Now Germany knows how all the other members in the E.U. feel about them. Kinda ironic. Karma they say.

Germany: "You can't push us around".......(then turns around and does the same **** to every member state of the E.U.)

 

There is plenty of articles about how Russia uses energy to bully it's customers, that's no secrete.. Then there as just as many about how Russia squeeze's its customers for higher and higher energy costs.. I wish I could remember a documentary last year about how some Europeons were having to do without, food, medicine and basic need just to pay for heat.. But. like I say, no skin off my ass who they want to buy their energy from

 

Damn! We are already at defcon 1 and they haven't even got the pipeline done yet.. I think a reconsideration is seriously needed here LMFAO ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

The companies are needed to install the pipeline that we want. With that they want sanction Germany. A move that is futile. The pipeline is completed im 20 days. For worst case Germany ordered the Fortuna Ship to Sassnitz, which could realize the last part. This pipeline will be completed, no matter what. Its our core interest to not bend to US pressure.

 

Its a short way from our eastern Border to Berlin, we made it to Moscow. Several thousand km.

 

Your own links say it. We amass massive budget surpluses, import next to nothing but accumulate money for bigger budget surpluses. Some economists say we should import more, spend more. Our government doesnt see it that way and sees accumulating surplus as goal.

 

I think you might be over reacting, I really don't think the U.S. finds any of this really important LMFAO

 

Yes, but at least the supply is more reliable and will not be at Russian political whims.

Would you rather buy something slightly cheaper, knowing however that German government will be under political pressure from Russia, and could face potential gas shut-offs?
That infrastructure and business supply chain needs to exist, so it is not as if Germany can only just buy American gas when it needs to.

 

Obviously not, since we denie to buy your LNG and ignore you while completing the pipeline.

 

The supply can not be more reliable. Or do you plan a pipeline over the Atlantic?

We have zero trust in Trump, americans cancel deals whenever they want. What makes you think Trump would not cancel gas delivery in case we dont agree to his bad trade deals?

Sorry but no.

 

Well, you should at least buy 40 percent of your gas from America, to be better prepared if Russia wants to shut it off.

Look at any major aerospace manufacturer, they make sure their supply comes from multiple sources so that one single supply business can not halt their entire production.

 

Im quite sure im bigger than you.

Beside that...your women are a matress.

 

We build a LNG terminal. USA is free to offer its product. If it has a reasonable price, customers will buy it.

 

So now you're gonna be insulting.. Typical..

 

If you want absolute cheapest price, you risk reliability problems. Don't complain when Russia shuts your gas off in the Winter.

How much will it cost German government to build huge gas storage facilities to deal with this potentiality?

 

It will cost us nothing, we already have massive storage facilities. They have the capability to bring us through 6 months if supply is cut off by 100%.

You know whats the funny thing is? Can you guess the effect that this US action has on the german parties that oppose this pipeline? How do you think do german parties who are against Nordstream II react to this foreign intervention?

 

Its no insult. Its a response. When i was in USA as exchange studend i was suprised how easy most girls are. Here you have to date them often several times before something serious starts. It was different there.

In return we had 3 girls from Gastonia here in return and at least 2 of them were called matress for a reason. The 3rd one actually was respected because she was intelligent and not that way.

 

Dude seriously? That's has to be the single most pathetic post I have read on this site... maybe ever.

 

Maybe ranked right after yours.

 

I agree with this actually, and I'm disappointed in my Congress that we think we can force the Germans to buy our goods by diktat. Even if we want Germany/EU independence from the Russians, that should be up to Germany/EU, and if it doesn't happen we can't/shouldn't compel them, or force them. That'd make Germany say "How is the US any different from Putin/Russia?"

So I disagree with this bill and the sentiment behind it. We have our points of contention and disagreement, but I don't want to literally push the EU/Germany away. I just want to fix the relationship to be better for both.