German Russian Gas Pipeline to Europe Faces Sanctions Under U.S. Defense Bill

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  1. Sobo

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    Thats ridicolous. But you know what? Let us sanction Apple to force USA to stop catering Saudi Arabia.

    Those sanctions are aimed to stop Nordstream 2. A German Energy project. They are aimed against Germany.
     
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    No your over associating the sanctions to the point of diplomatic ties is ridiculous.

    I noticed you left out Gasprom, and their role in all this.
     
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    I guess chancellor Merkel, foreign minister Maas, economy minister Altmeier also over associate things. Head of EU commission von der Leyen and french president Macrin who call it a hostile act against Germany and Europe also over associate things?

    Get real.
     
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    Not sure Macron is that on board.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rance-on-european-union-expansion-merkel-says

    All that said, you are over reacting, USA and German relations are not going to change over this.
     
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    French ENI is a main investor in Nordstream II.

    Im not over reacting.

    But you are right. German american relations wont change over it. They are dead already. It just adds another attack on us.

    https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...es-between-germany-and-the-u-s-a-1282295.html

    German-U.S. Ties Are Breaking Down

     
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    Well I agree Trump is a poor foreign diplomat, but I will take any bet with you, that the relations are not going anywhere. :)
     
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    Sure, they are destroyed. Merkel already adjusts to the new reality that USA has become an enemy. Former CSU Leader Stoiber said Yesterday that Putin is not our enemy, Trump is


    The German Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier has said he worries that damage to the U.S. relationship could end up being "irreparable."


    I agree with my president.
     
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    Ya I get ya.. That's the same thing the American GI's said about German women too ;)
     
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    Oh yeah, a man who steals land, imprisons journalists, and murders his political opponents is a true friend :)
     
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    ... And also the opinion of Russian soldiers. Asked Sobo's great grandmother where he got is slavic traits.
     
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    I guess that means you guys will have to start driving the Porsche's Germans make that only stupid Americans buy.

    If you think we need Germany more that Germany and the rest of the world needs America, you are living in a bubble.
     
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    You get something wrong. Porsches main market is rich gulf states and China. Its also not about who needs who. This is about freedom. USA tries to push a tyranny over us. And we stand upright against that.

    Tell me, how would you react when a foreign power want force their will on your country?

    When have american conservatives have become communist swines?
     
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    No, he's anti-anti-American too.
     
  14. Sobo

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    Trump is anti German, thats a simple fact.
     
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    lol

    Why would we shed a tear at not having to protect you?
     
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    You're not important enough for the US president to be against you.
    Ignoring a petulent child isn't the same as hating him.
     
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    Yet you seem to think that Germany controls the EU, and the EU gets to tell the other countries what to do.

    I noticed you don't seem to be very concerned "about freedom" in Iran. I think you suggested "clubbing them down".
     
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    We need no protection. We are 4th largest economy in the world and have no enemies around us. Beside that we sre nuclear. Get lost
     
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    Iran is a souvereign nation. They have to deal with themself. Its none of your business.

    P.s. doesnt it bother you that your country shows openly how impotent it is? The pipeline will be completed within roughly 3 to 4 weeks. You failed.
     
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    Germany is 2nd most powerful economy in western world. Its also in the center of most of his rants. He is so obsessed with Germany, it appears mental
     
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    Says the guy who suggested Iran, the "Sovereign State", "club down" their populace.

    Starting fights has never worked for Germany so you might want to tone it down.
     
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    You have money but you have zero power projection.
    Growing up you'll learn that friendship that you buy is quite fleeting and money is easy to lose.
     
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    We would not exist if it has never worked for us. We owe our whole existence because starting fights worked pretty well for us. We ****ed up rome, crushed the celts. Conquered british islands, made the vikings our vasalls, conquered italy, took spain, took jerusalem, crushed france multiple times, crushed the turks multiple times, crushed denmark, russia, took namibia, kenya and tanzania as well as papua new guinea.

    Look dude, you dont become the dominant power of europe and an economic powerhouse when starting fights dont work well.

    And tone down what? We complete our pipeline. You lost. Simple fact.
     
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    Your powerprojection appears near zero. Assad still in power, Russia owning Crimea, Germany ignoring you.

    Beside that there is no friendship between nations.
     
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    Uh no.

    If it wasn't for the US, you would have been born speaking Russian.
     

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