Woman was denied morning-after pill because of pharmacists' beliefs: Lawsuit

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is asking anyone to disavow anything.
     
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    Word salad , how does that address my answer?
     
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    Oh really the Christian right is for the war on women by letting guys in dresses compete in sports with girls?


    Oh really the Christian right is for the war on women by letting guys in dresses to use little girls bathrooms?


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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They could refuse on the grounds of religious beliefs, just like this pharmacist did.
    Should they be allowed to refuse insulin? Yes or no?
    What about cancer drugs?
    Pain medication?
     
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    On religious grounds. It's God's will to heal according to some freaks.
     
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    The Christian right conservative believe women are 2nd on everything. God made Adam. Eve came 2nd out of a spare part of Adam. Eve breached the rules, ate the apple... and than made Adam ate it too. That's right wing conservative Christianity 101.
     
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    Exactly how is comparing forcing doctors to provide a service they don't want to provide to slavery racist?

    You realize that slavery isn't just something that happened to a specific race during a specific period to time, right?
     
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    Is he free to practice his religion when dealing with the public? IMHO, religious beliefs should be private. Period.

    Her number of offspring is not anyone's business. Her choices are not anyone's business.

    If this pharmacist can't bring himself to serve all of the public, keep his nose out of it and simply do his job, he should find some other line of work that doesn't require him to interract with the public. Instead, he is choosing to interfere in the lives of others.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century

    How many of the 20 to 40 million people CURRENTLY enslaved are members of the race you're thinking of?
     
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    Nobody is forcing them to be a doctor, buddy. Your comparison is just so racist and so off from how it is. It's embarrassing to read. You're just being over the top racist and dramatic when you're shown to be in the wrong.
     
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    You are saying 6 billion people out of 7 billion people are freaks? And no medical prayer stories ever happened?
     
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    White people were never slaves?
     
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    My point was that if she hasn't figured out how human reproduction works by 40 years with 5 kids thats a problem.

    The articles also state she is married, has foster kids, etc-so the Media sure seemed invested in talking about her "business".

    The Pharmacist is protected by law-he has the right to decline to dispense medication. Period.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    Yes its Minnesota law




    The Board of Pharmacy DOES allow Minnesota pharmacists to refuse to fill a prescription because of their beliefs. If that happens, the pharmacist must refer the patient to someone who will fill it in a reasonable amount of time.3 days ago
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    CBS Local › minnesota › woma...
    Woman Files Lawsuit After Pharmacist Refuses To Fill Morning-After Pill ...




    He followed the law


     
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    If you refuse a person's right to deny services, yes, YOU specifically are forcing them to be a doctor.

    Nothing I said has anything to do with race. Slavery is not conditional of race. Being a doctor is not conditional of race.

    If anything, your attempt to tie my comment to race is racist.
     
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    Signs that someone may have been forced into slavery include a lack of identity documents, lack of personal possessions, clothing that is unsuitable or has seen much wear, poor living conditions, a reluctance to make eye contact, unwillingness to talk, and unwillingness to seek help.

    It aint modern slavery according to your source. You're just desperate and ranting total nonsense.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a person should be able to deny life saving services to a cancer patient because they feel their god tells them to.

    And you people wonder why others absolutely hate people with your proclivities.

    It’s amoral
     
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    You think maybe people should do their jobs or not have those jobs? Seems irresponsible to take a job that you know will involve violating your deeply held religious beliefs.
     
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    This is just more then Minnesota


    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5018646

     
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    1) that's not the law. (red)
    2) he didn't follow what the board of pharmacy demands. He refused to refer her where to go (blue)
     
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    Nope. They can quit their job. A slave can not.

    I did not invent the link to the black American past with slavery. This is like reading that there is nothing morally wrong with black facing myself.
     
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    He does not have the right to discriminate, to decide who gets what medications.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    This has been happening for a decade or more why is this topic news anyways ?



    2005 article


    https://www.pharmacytimes.com/contr...s-refusing-to-fill-spark-national-controversy


     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they want that money!
    Strange how they purposely put themselves in a position to violate their “sincerely held beliefs” just so they can profit.
    Almost like their “sincerely held beliefs” aren’t that sincere.
     
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    Nope. I only answered your question of "Why would they refuse insulin, on what moral grounds?"
    I proved they can do that. You're defending that Taliban like Christian train of thought.
    And so you're now making personal attacks out of total thin air. Oh how petty.
     
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