Woman was denied morning-after pill because of pharmacists' beliefs: Lawsuit

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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I can't force you to be honest with yourself.

    Suffice it to say the pharmacist had the right to choose what service he provides and which he does not. I don't see anyone complaining that he doesn't carry a specific brand of homeopathic flea powder or any of the myriad other products he chooses not to sell.

    It's only because they are butthurt about his rationale for not providing it. In the attempt to punish him for it they are marching themselves to tyranny and chains.
     
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  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not arguing you don't choose to help people. I'm arguing that you choose who not to help. No one forces you to help people you don't want to
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    You posted an Atheist blog as a source, you really think I was going to believe it, it took me a damn two hours to find a legitimate source that he no longer works there
     
  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He should not be able to interfere with a medical treatment between a doctor and a patient.
    He should not be able to lie to her and say another local pharmacy does not have the prescription.

    I would have no issues if he would have said let me call another pharmacist in as this treatment makes me uncomfortable or whatever excuse he wanted to use — but trying to prevent her from it all together should be illegal.
     
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    So according to you it would be ok for a devout religious zealot to refuse to fill a life-saving prescription for a non-believer because he genuinely thinks non-believers should perish?

    He is not prepared to break the law by actually killing people but he won’t help those who aren’t from his religion. Oh, and he will fill prescriptions for non-life threatening things but won’t fill prescriptions for life-threatening conditions.

    You should be ok with that.

    Right?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure what that has to do with this situation.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I see.

    Your choice for your body is restricted to abortion. You don't actually get to decide what you do with your body unless it's abortion.

    That sounds very choicy.
     
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  8. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

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    So you want to rule over his beliefs and force him to be an accessory to murder in his eyes?

    Sometimes I really think some Atheist know they are going to hell with their beliefs and want to take Christians with them
     
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    It is none of thé pharmacist’s business why the woman wants to buy the pill. Rape, incest, condom broke, guy didn’t pull out, she was drunk and didn’t care - it’s none of his business.
     
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    That is true of demons.
     
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    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    All resulting pregnancies would still be human life. If you found out you were the result of any of those scenarios, would you want to die?

    Two crimes don't make a right.
     
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    At the very least, they should have to let the public know they offer limited services.
     
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    Just like it's none of her business why he won't give her one right.
     
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    This is true, but I bet she already knew, which is why she went there.
     
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    His beliefs are abortion is murder.

    She targeted him , she was a predator who wanted to force her beliefs into others.

    Just like the clerk on gay marriage certificate

    Just like the Christian Baker

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    It's either 21 or it aint. Which is it? And mandatory in 7 ... means nothing you can legally decline elsewhere.
     
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    That's a baseless opinion, and I'm sorry I can't prove a negative.
     
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    I suspect we'll always disagree on the cake issue, but put it this way: Anyone can edit a cake/custom bake a cake. Not every medication can fill the same need. Hence why I'm on your side on this particular case.
     
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    Yup. Because I'm more not okay with some regulation that forces him to do something. Because if he can be forced to do things he doesn't want to, then I can be too.
     
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    Heck I was researching the laws around the country, just to see for myself on Google you have to go with various news sources
     
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    Interestingly neither of you responded to my other post.

    So let’s make this a bit more personal. You need to fill a life-saving prescription for your wife/husband etc. The Muslim behind the counter says he won’t fill that prescription for you due to his religious beliefs.
    You’re ok with that?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your argument is that you help people you don't want to help? People who it's against your ethics to help?

    Right.
     
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    There was no abortion

    Nope. The pharmacies she visited have as policy to provide the drug. You're just making it up that she was a predator out of nowhere.

    dude not even working there anymore.
     
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    Emergency contraceptives do not work if you are pregnant so it is impossible to “murder” anyone.
    They prevent pregnancy. Thus their name — emergency contraceptive

    If it exists most of you will be there
     
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    There seems to be something going on that we don't know about. If the morning after people is against this guy's belief, why does he supply it? We know that he supplies it because Andrea was able to order it.

    Why are there no details given on the reason for the refusal at the CVS?


    The limit should be when it is an essential service. A service so essential that the government would be involved in its delivery if private enterprise wasn't involved in for whatever reason. It's worth noting that the government would not be in the baking business.

    I think that a pharmacist should be able to decide not to be in the birth control business, but if they are, then they must sell it to everyone - although there is an argument that they should have to stock every basic pharmaceutical, especially something like the pill, because people expect a pharmacy to have basic pharmaceuticals.

    When religious people refuse services, it's not because they believe that the service has a "religious purpose." What makes you say that?

    What did he lie about?
     
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