German Russian Gas Pipeline to Europe Faces Sanctions Under U.S. Defense Bill

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They aren't worth even one more American life.
     
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    Axis powers because we dont want a foreign power dictate to us to buy their overpriced LNG? What happened to freedom and democracy? Thought americans stand for those values.

    Btw Merkel ordered to Speed Up construction. So far they Made 3 km per day. They now are at 5 km per day.
     
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    I dont care about your relatives. But why bury?

    In a biogas reactor you can produce biogas from organic waste, which can be used to power cars.
     
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    Russia is a foreign power.
    Best of luck to you.
     
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    Russia doesnt dictate us anything, We can buy their gas or dont buy it. This pipeline is a deal between Germany and Russia. A signed contract.

    USA wants something different. Their LNG is 30% more expensive. They cant win on the free market. Because of that, they want get rid of the pipeline competition, so Germans would be forced to buy 30% more expensive gas.

    This issue has become something fundamental. To show that we dont kneel infront a tyrant.

    German energy politics are decided in Berlin and its a matter of honor to stand upright.

    That all political parties here from the entire political spectrum side with Nordstream II now is something that shows how important it is, that the red line was shown.

    If we kneel here, we open pandoras box. It would show, that USA can install a tyranny over us. Why hold elections here, why have an independend german government, when Trump can overrule it and force american interest on us, on our expense?

    There is nothing more important than to stand upright and stand for ourself.

    The pipeline is 90% completed. There is a 200km gap. Until last week, each day 3km were added to close that gap. Now they speed up and manage to lay each day 5 km.

    This will guarentee the completion of the project. And even if USA is foolish enough to start sanctions against allseas. Merkel orderd the german based "Fortuna" pipeline layer ship to Stralsund. It would be capapble to close the gap independently.

    This pipeline will be completed.
     
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    Than they dictate the price to you
     
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    Yes, they can put them in ovens. I'm sure Germany still has some of them left.
     
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    How so? We can buy from evryone. We dont like their price, we buy from Iran or Bahrain.

    Just as we do with your LNG. We dont buy it.

    You do realize that we have thousands of pipelines and gas and fuel stations at harbors and reciefe those rescoruces from many nations, right?

    Sometimes i think americans are very slow thinkers. Guess when your local supermarket closes you starve to death, incapable to simply go elswhere.
     
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    They buy their gas or they freeze.
     
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    Those are not CO2 neutral. But biogas is.

    Hey tell me how your uncle returned dead from Bremen? How did his aircraft manage to land with a dead one? Was he a Zombie?

    Like in World War Z, when the Zombies storm the aircraft?

    [​IMG]

    Damn. Dr Mengele has gone way to far.
     
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    No, we buy their gas or buy from someone else.

    Anyways, thats none of your business.
     
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    I knew you wouldn't understand as most of Germany's crappy bombers went down with the whole crew after a few hits. My uncle (Professor Peabody Sr. youngest brother) was hit and killed on board. The American B-17's and B-24's were built vastly superior to any German aircraft of similar type. The Brits alone with their crappy Hurricanes and some Spitfires brought the Luftwaffe to their knees.
     
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    And when they realize the Soviets won't.....up goes the prices. Especially from any country affiliated with or buying Soviet Military hardware. Welcome to the real world.
     
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    Killed propably from ammo made from Krauss-Maffei here in my hometown. See our families share something.

    That said, that guy must have been ripped apart. Getting hit by german anti aircraft cannons is savage.

    [​IMG]
     
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    No. As 4th largest economy in the world, we can trade with anyone. We might even buy your LNG then. Or from Iran which desperatly looks for customers. Or from the giant gas fields in the Mediterranean. Or from Norway.

    But as said, thats none of your business.
     
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    they have it and Germany doesn't
     
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    then shut up about it.
     
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    With Trump, I agree, he is terrible with foreign policy, but he won't be president forever, and Germany knows this.
     
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    Dude, what about "we buy elswhere then". Did you not understand?
     
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    Slow down your hatred, bro. The Germans learned their lessons. They are no longer Nazis.

    Moreover, Germans have become EU citizens. German nationalism is almost non-existent. And if it breaks out somewhere, the Germans fight it themselves.
     
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    What a ridicolous bullshit. German nationalism is strong and vibrant.

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    Nobody here feels as EU citizens. We are Germans. Many even hate the EU.

    Beside that nationalism and patriotism has nothing to do with Nazism.
     
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    Yes, among German soccer fans. :D

    That may well be true in your East German village.
    But not in most of Germany.

    Nazism is the specific German form of nationalism. And it isn't good. :(
     
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    Its also true in Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, Hessen and so on.

    Nazism is not nationalism. NAzism was a german hating ideology.

    Im a german citizen, not an EU citizen. There is no EU identity.
     
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    The Adolph hated Jews, Poles, Russians, Brits, French and so on. But the German people were his tool. And they loved him and died for him.

    "Fuhrer befiel, wir folgen dir", Leader command us! We'll follow you!
    That was a very popular slogan during the Nazi years.
     
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    The NSDAP never got more than 30% in an election.

    You know what was even more popular than this Hitler slogan? Hitler jokes.

    On a sidenote, Hitler did not hate French and British.
     
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