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Dementia and Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Bowerbird, Dec 16, 2019.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    These concerns keep being raised - that Donald Trump has dementia. It is not just anyone talking of this but health professionals have raised this issue time and again, White House employees have raised the issue, anyone who has a relative with dementia have raised the issue

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-we-need-know-psychologist-column/3404007002/
    The Montreal cognitive test Jackson used only rules out full blown dementia not early dementia

    The article goes on tho list many of the concerning behaviours, not the least of which are the forgetting of people’s names and substitution of another “Marion Lockheed”, “Tim Apple”

    Failure to recognise old friends

    Claiming his father was born in Germany when it was his Grandfather who was born there

    Semantic paraphrasia - choosing the wrong words such as “oranges” instead of ‘origins”

    Flights of thought which we see regularly in every speech he makes

    There are more indicators which I will post
     
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    The article in the OP was over a year old so it is worth revisiting what has happened in that year

    https://prospect.org/power/president-trump-truly-decompensated/

    And we have seen some truly bizarre behaviours recently

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    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    So impeach him! Oh wait...
     
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    No this is not just about Trump. This is about what to do if a sitting president suddenly appears in public naked with only his underwear draped over his head,

    Excuse me a minute please while I get THAT image our of my head!

    And it is not about “blaming” trump. People cannot help it if they develop dementia
     
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    Could it be that those that hate him, HATE him so much that THEY are the ones developing dementia? I vote plausible.
     
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    Too easy just to dismiss genuine concerns as “hate”

    The Atlantic has wonderful examples of Trumps cognitive decline in language skills

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/
     
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    And Andrew Jackson was peeved because he thought his political opponents killed his wife because that's how weak she was.

    There's a time and place to be worried about things like mental illness. The problem is, how do we know whether or not to be concerned about it. The idea a politician or a civic leader despite having a mental illness can serve is a good thing to have. We need to be able to open politics up for these concerns. Yet this isn't up to us to decide as citizens. I hate to say this, but this is something that's best left to the representatives to deal with, not popular opinion.
     
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    Not really, just more examples of the same foreign attempts to influence and meddling in U.S. affairs. Granted not near as effective or as successful as the Russians, not that Australians are not taken lightly on the world stage, it just the world simply doesn't pay any attention to Australia :(
     
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    Look at abraham Lincoln dealing with crazy Democrats?

    It takes alot out of a person in only 5 years

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    And a year old too! It's pretty obvious things are slow around the ranch when you have to reach back to the those teenage years just to find something complain about :)
     
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    I think in the kangaroo courts of Australia ;) He already has, but like everything else Australian, it's not really that important and means nothing really ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Someone alert Muellar that there is an Aussie here trying to influence our election!
     
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    Perhaps instead of showing tax returns they should undertake an independent health examination and not just bring a note from a weird doctor

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    I am flattered!
     
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    Is it wrong? Did he no5 do those things?

    I have given three sources where concerns have been raised and insight into the concerning behaviours
     
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    Goldwater's rule, sorry
     
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    You just love those fake photos eh?
     
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    What does no5 mean in English is it code or something, should I be scared?

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    do you have a link? A meme from a hyper partisan FB group is highly suspect.
     
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    Fake no they are real
     
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    Which would not apply if it were an in depth assessment

    Bottom line is that maybe there should be some sort of safeguard. Reagan had early Alzheimer’s
     
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    I want to know what no5 means?
     
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    I nursed my own Mother through dementia and I see absolutely NO comparison and she was pretty good on the scale! This is insulting to anyone who has been in a similar situation.

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