Insiders Predict Pelosi May Not Go Through With Impeachment After Hearings

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Exactly.

    Apparently Trump (and his supporters) have a major misunderstanding (involving the Impeachment process).
     
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    Nancy is not going to hold the articles for long, I expect. She's going to get so much public blowback from her side of the aisle if she tries for any extended delay that she'll look as completely incompetent to her own base as she appears to those not in her base. I'm betting she submits the articles to the Senate within a few days of Congress' return from the holidays.
     
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    What are you afraid of? Your own witness during the kangaroo court said if they don't go the Senate Trump won't have been impeached.

    I'm liking the expungement idea more, say early 2021? If the Dems make a blatantly partisan act, expect partisan pushback. Or will that be 'obstruction', LOL?
     
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    True. But the Senate may only make rules for the trial on impeachment. The rules for impeachment itself are made by the House. Both are specified in the Constitution. House gets sole power on impeachment; Senate gets sole power to try an impeachment. I'm taking the position that that requires a formal notification to the Senate of the articles of impeachment passed by the House and that the Senate may not simply begin an impeachment trial on its own and without formal notification.
     
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    There already have been Dems commenting how this is looking like she's just playing games.
     
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    Since Nancy is making it up as she goes along, Mitch should too. Dealing with her is like trying to nail jello to the wall, she's never happy.
     
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    Since this has been an entirely partisan matter don't expect agreement on anything. Pelosi should have thought of that beforehand. You know, back when she said impeachment must be bipartisan to be legitimate.
     
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    I agree.

    That is EXACTLY how the process works.
     
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    So should have McConnell.
     
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    Well, everyone has been delivered the articles so...
     
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    It also works that Nancy send the articles to the Senate.
     
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    You mean he can't act like a democrat?
     
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    He didn't start this farce, your gal did.
     
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    No...Congress, with appropriate majorities, can do whatever it wishes. But, it won't get rid of the footnote on the Trump Presidency and Impeachment. Maybe add a second or third footnote, after "Third President to be Impeached." Then "First Impeached President to be expunged from Impeachment by a later Congress." If it makes the kid feel better, I guess that's all his supporters care about. They don't want him to feel offended.
     
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    I understand this about the impeachment process perfectly.

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    :roflol:

    Expungement? For an Impeachment?:roflol:

    Kevin McCarthy is completely off his rocker.

    It's unclear whether Congress can undo an impeachment by expunging it like a criminal record. Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy told PJM that he doesn't think so. "If it could have been done, Dems would have done it for Clinton," he said, adding that there's "no such thing in my pocket Constitution."

    "Expunging" an Impeachment? :roflol:
     
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    Because the best way for House Dems to convince the American people that Trump was using leverage for his own political gain... Is for the House Dems to use leverage for their own political gain. Solid strategy, Nancy!
     
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    Hey, CT. I like that meme.

    I like that wig on the cat.

    At this point, all of us are just gonna have to wait and see how it plays out.
     
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    She took a reasonable step following McConnell's disavowal of impartiality and public announcement that he'd do whatever the President's attorneys told him to do. McConnell is scared to death of Trump. If he and Schumer can't come to an agreement on trial rules, Pelosi will move forward at the appropriate time and Chief Justice John Roberts will arbitrate the differences to move forward.
     
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    Which includes Mitch.

    When he's re-elected nobody will care.

    Add another footnote for only impeachment with no crime and that was completely partisan. It says more about the insane House than it does Trump.
     
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    Certainly, ideally, it should be. But this is the Republican Party that would support the President if he shot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. Republican Congressional representatives have, thus far, but Party before Country.
    And, weren't Pelosi's bi-partisan statements PRIOR to the Ukraine fiasco?
     
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    Nah. WRONG on both counts.

    TRUMP Started It.
     
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    He didn't say that, you made that up. He said he would work with Trump's attorney's, just like Senate Dems did when Clinton was impeached. If being impartial is a requirement then Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi should have recused themselves in the House kangaroo court.

    No, he's a big Trump supporter. Why would he be afraid of another branch of government?

    He only rules once it gets to the Senate and after Mitch decides the rules. I say the Senate GOP should make all the rules unilaterally, just like House Dems did.
     
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    You think he can be reelected with a minority of the vote and on the basis of the Electoral College? Nah...it was a fluke the first time and unlikely to occur twice. You'll be very, very lucky to hold the Senate. The next election is the chance to get rid of the President whom nobody particularly likes and who made zero attempts to broaden his base.
     
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    When he beat Hillary, I agree. That was when this impeachment talk started, from Democrats who wouldn't accept the election results.
     
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