Trump was impeached with more votes against him than any other president

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  1. Promise Hero

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    . "Clown Show is merely an opinion not fact. all based purely on
    TRUMP'S AND HIS REPUBLICAN COHORTS'S IRATIONAL FEAR AND ANGER OVER THE FACT THAT Trump was caught and legitimately impeached
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    Also for the first time in American history we have MANAGERS AND members of a Presidential campaign relying on RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN contacts and going to prison for Lying to congress and tampering with witnesses
    "The former campaign manager for US President Donald Trump became the first former member of the Trump camp to be sent to jail on Friday after a federal judge revoked his bail.
    Manafort was indicted last October as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian agents. Manafort is accused of money laundering, as well as tax and bank fraud charges.
    The charges revolve around Manafort's work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine between 2004 and 2014, including for deposed President Viktor Yanukovych.
    While under house arrest, Manafort allegedly tried to use his former Russian fixer, Konstantin Kilimnik, to contact two witnesses in his money laundering case and persuade them not to make 'certain statements to investigators.


    https://www.dw.com/en/ex-trump-campaign-manager-paul-manafort-sent-to-jail/a-44247071
     
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    You do realize that winning is not the same as cheating? Just because a dem makes a claim does not make the claim true. The dems are terrified that those silly voters will screw up their delusions of grandeur and not fall into line to vote for the hack the dems finally pick. Then we will see another temper tantrum.
     
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    I do know that winning is not the same as cheating.

    Source: The 2018 midterms that put Democrats in power with the Express mandate of holding trump accountable.
     
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    Who did the voters vote for in 2016?
    2018?
     
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    The OP is false. Trump has yet to be impeached if the Articles are not delivered to the Senate.
     
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    That was before the Mueller report was released...

    Back then it was 24/7 Mueller Mueller Mueller.
     
  7. MrTLegal

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    Take it up with Jonathan Turley.
     
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    The theory that the GOP lost so many seats because of Mueller has almost zero evidentiary support.

    Here is an article about how the Russia investigation got barely any play time in political ads for either side:
    Mueller is everywhere, except the midterms
    Campaign ads and debates are mostly avoiding the Russia investigation in favor of other issues important to voters.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/robert-mueller-trump-midterms-897887

    And the voters did not care, or if they did care, it helped the GOP. Here is the CNN exit polling from the 2018 midterms: https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls

    And here's the question they asked about the Russia investigation:

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    There is a 13 point advantage for the group that found the View of the Russia investigation politically motivated and, of those voters, 73% voted for the Republican.
     
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    I said nothing about "Ads"... CNN MSNBC CBS ABC etc etc exists.. They have what they would like to call news programs perhaps you have heard of them.
     
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    But you know what did influence and hurt the GOP in 2018? Trump.

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    There was a 12 point advantage for those who said their vote for the U.S. house was to "oppose Trump" and, of those, 94% voted for Democrats. Overall, nearly 2/3rds of voters said that Trump was a factor in their decision.
     
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    And yet the voters DID NOT CARE about the Russia investigation or, to the extent that they did care, the significant majority said they believed the Russia investigation was politically motivated and those voters cast a vote for the Republicans.
     
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    Do you have one to show that shows how the Mueller report impacted it as that was what i was discussing.
     
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    I am actively refuting your theory. But here's another data point. This is the Pew Research Survey of Most Important Issues to the Voters. Let's see if you can find Russia or Mueller on the list:

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    I found the Russia Investigation on the list of Gallup Important Issues for Voters in 2018!

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    It's at the bottom. Below Climate Change.
     
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    An Impeached and untried president will still replace Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

    The Left's behavior over the past few years has provided Trump with every reason to tell them to go pound sand.
     
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    And yet a near majority found it very important.. thanks.....
     
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    Another way of viewing that data point is that it was the 12th most important issue for voters....out of 12.

    But you get your confirmation bias where you can get it, I suppose.
     
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    Trump's behavior over the past few years got Democrats into power with the single largest midterm popular vote margin of victory in US history and then it got his ass impeached.

    Sand Pounded.
     
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    Strange they are not ranked by importance per caller... The question was not what is the most pressing issue but keep spinning it.
     
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    Pelosi tried for 2 1/2 years her words not mine.. Nothing Trump did got him impeached..
     
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    And yet he is impeached because a majority of Congress decided that he Obstructed Congress and Abused his Power.

    Merry Impeachmas!
     
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    A Majority of the House... Many of which voted to impeach him three times previous...
     
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    Like I said, whatever helps you to maintain your confirmation bias. You do you.
     
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    Yep. For other **** that he had done. And this time, his behavior got him actually and factually impeached with more "Yes" votes than any President in History.
     
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    And how long was Pelosi in an actual position to make that happen??

    Answer - Less than 2 1/2 years... In fact, she managed to get Trump impeached in less than 350 days... think about that...

    Actually, to be accurate, Trump got Trump impeached in less than 350 days..
     
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