Israel: US Asks Iran to Not Sink an American Carrier, “Just Kill Some Troops Instead”

Please. This act of yours is getting old.

 

Cool isn't it. I wonder how the realignment of power will effect Germany?

 

We dont evacuate our embassy in Baghdad. You do.

 

You're too insignificant to attack anyway.
Burning Germany embassy would have the same impact as setting fire to a dog house.

 

Why burn the dog house the fleas already moved to Germany.

 

Simply put the likelihood that Iran can find let alone sink and American carrier is vanishingly small.

 

Says the guy from the country that is full of vermin. Dude i visited USA in 2018. Full of hispanic illegals and africans. I was disgusted in san francisco.

 

That's another thing. No one who is really from Germany says "dude" as much as you do, dude.

Your phony racism is also very tiresome.

Will Iran counter attack? I believe they will try. The mortars on the barracks was probably the first attempt.

 

I can say the same thing about germany... Beautiful place but the germans are bringing the whole place down. Good thing that their women are working hard to get real men into their bed to replace those incompetant germans male.

 

Most of the worst on this board are sockpuppets. Hell, some of those old accounts have just been reactivated this weekend.

 

Russia is two whole countries away from Iran. It's not even down wind of the fall out. Geography isn't your strong suit is it? Or is it a problem understanding just how accurate US nukes are?

 

Russia borders Iran at the caspian sea. Nukes are never accurate. Fall out speards thousands of km

 

Of course. I have to admit watching the more extreme ones trying to bait conservatives is more amusing than most but it is amazing how many rules they break with impunity as well.


Iran will most likely try a target in the middle east where their influence is strongest.

 

So you don't know anything about modern nuclear weapons either?

 

BS we can drop a nuke in your window if we so choose and fall out falls where the wind blows. Likely nuke targets in Iran are well south and East if Russia.

 

Your source is simply a fake news conspiracy site. I'm sorry if you were tricked by it, and that you believe it, but you are just going to look silly. Just curious, did you come across a German language source first and then hunted up an English version to post here or was "story" just found in English? Are there any real news sites that confirm this? I'm guessing no.

 

I stopped reading at "insiders said". Such "sources" are common with fake nooz!

 

Check out the straights of Hormuz... not really difficult to find any ship passing thru

 

I was a mine warfare specialist in the Navy.

In theory, what you're saying is correct, only it would be done exactly the opposite of that.

See, you're not going to lift an aircraft carrier up. You're talking about a vessel that has a weight approaching 100,000 tons, or 200 million pounds, so let's dismiss the idea that anything is going to "shift it upwards". It's just not going to happen. However, a very similar effect can be created by displacing the water beneath the ship. This would, again in theory, be done with the air bubble which is created by an influence mine (which sits on the ocean floor) when it detonates.

At the instant of detonation, the air bubble has the exact same dimensions as the mine. As the bubble rises to the surface, it expands. In theory, by the time the bubble reaches the surface, it's displaced enough water beneath the ship so that the stern and bow are resting in the water, but the majority of the hull is not. In theory, this would be sufficient to sink a much smaller vessel.

But the Persian Gulf has an average depth of only about 165 feet, and that's just not sufficient for a bubble to expand to the size it would need to to sink an aircraft carrier. And, while the Persian Gulf does have a maximum depth of about 300 feet, at that depth the mine is useless, as any influence (magnetic, seismic, acoustic) has dissipated by the time it would reach the mine at such a depth. Going deeper than 200 feet is going to be hit or miss. 300 feet? Not a chance.

Also, the size of the mine doesn't really matter. The UDM, if I recall, is 660kg of high explosive material. Even a mine triple that size would not create an air bubble of sufficient size to sink an aircraft carrier.

Oh, right, one more thing: in order for such a tactic to be successful, the bubble would have to reach the surface at the exact moment the ship is passing over the spot where the bubble surfaces. There's not even any real way to calculate that to make it happen.

So, your desire to see an aircraft carrier sent to the bottom is unlikely...

 

I know that ships are very fragile things. When Titanics stern was not supported by water anymore, it broke off. If you put enough explosives under it, i think it could buckle or break the keel?

 

This something that, I suspect, you don't have any background in. My background in this is extensive.

Ships are quite robust. The problem with Titanic is that there was no watertight integrity, and that resulted in progressive flooding. Today's warships have individual compartments which can be completely sealed an isolated. That's what happened with USS Princeton in 1991.

Also, you can't exactly predict where an aircraft is going to go and, if you could, you'd have to deal with the fact that a carrier is protected by ships on outer screens. The outermost screens are mine warfare vessels which locate and neutralize mine threats.

The bottom line is that you're never going to get enough explosives underneath an aircraft carrier to sink it. You're just not...

 

Titanic had water tight integrity. She had 16 compartments and a a very high security. You could flood 4 compartments she stayed afloat. They damaged 6 compartments. So the front 6 compartments flooded and pulled the bow down, which let the stern rise. When it reached a 30 degree angle it broke in half.

Ships are very fragile because their weight. You can even destroy a giant cruise when handling it wrong at dry dock.

 

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

And the carrier group itself is represented by a few smaller units the the carrier it's self isn't in the straights. No reason for it to be.

 

if we have some reason to teach Iran a lesson, may need to deploy carriers... as we did in both gulf wars