Iran announces abandonment of its limitations in nuclear deal

He begged Iraq to vote differently.

 

Obama did not send the “billions in cash”.

Dear lord the right just makes **** up to fit the Trump screw up of the day.

 

How much did Obama send Iran in cash?

How much sanctions relief did Obama give Iran? President Trump reinstated the sanctions cutting off their terrorists funds.

How many billions did Obama unfreeze and hand over to Iran.

That is B, as in billions.

 

I see it the opposite from AJ: This scenario was unavoidable, the minute the "Joint comprehensive action" was made. It was made as a sell out to the EU, who wanted Iranian oil(not unlike the need for Russian oil.) Europe isn't a strong ally in the contention with Iran/Eastern Axis.

As always, political pundits and even historians are getting it wrong. The Eastern AXIS is poised, was created, specifically to overthrow the United States. Iran, China, Russia and North Korea are a united front(pun intended) on this objective of theirs.

With Europe weak and dependent, both in Eurasia and in Europe, it has become a liability for the United States. Either the US is dragged into the European theater, or the smaller Asian nations are swallowed by China who will back North Korean aggression.

We're already in a hot war period. It's just a calm before the storm. And the US has to decode which front is the Axis going to come from first? Europe or Asia?

 

The Iraqies are making a huge mistake(a similar mistake to the one we made to invade in the first place.). Iraq cannot withstand an Iranian onslaught, which is sure to follow. It'll be ISIS all over again. The Iraqi State will be quickly swallowed by Iran, as it doesn't have the current geopolitical might to win a second Iran-Iraq war.

 

my uneducated 'guess' is boots on the ground would be needed to keep the pests from scattering to a new nest

 

so far Iran hasnt invaded anybody in a very long time so its doubtful, especially if they have a friendly regime anyway,
the first iraq-iran war was started by iraq

 

By finally finding almost the only way possible Iran and Iraq could become allies against the USA?


Yeah, right! Lol!

Be sure to keep in mind that almost no one in the world will want to ally with the USA except Israel. Maybe. I am not sure Israel would have liked to ally Iraq and Iran! They will probably do it, but I bet their war leaders are cursing over Trump's stupidity!

 

Russia takes NATO countries and America takes Canada if the UK doesn't ally

 

The left was on here SCREAMING to end wars in the middle east and no war and bring our troops home...

Then Trump finds a way to get all of our troops out and now you're STILL GOING TO ****ING CRY ABOUT IT?

Amazing, really, the amount of mental gymnastics performed by the left over the last week or so.

 

Trump is threatening Iraq with sanctions if they expel US troops out of Iraq. Why are Trump supporters so gullible and ignore what has really been going on? US Foreign Policy controls what happens in the Middle East. US foreign Policy is for perpetual war in the Middle East. The Iranian general was murdered because he was representing Iran in upcoming Iran/Saudi peace talks arranged by the Iraqi government

 

Oh yeah China and Russia are going to interfere on behalf of the USA.

 

Doesn't blow it? He has no intention of getting US troops out of the Middle East. That is only for the ears of his gullible supporters who like to make up their own "facts" and ignore reality.

 

Who knows?
What we do know is
1. Trump’s state department certified that Iran WAS in compliance
2. Trump pulled out of the agreement before Iran was ever in breach - so we will never be able to know if they would have complied throughout the term.

 

You are ****ing batshit if you think Trump wanted Iraq to vote on expelling US troops. His administration actively campaigned against that vote and he has personally threatened sanctions against Iraq, ones that will be worse than Iran, if they finish the process of kicking our troops out of their country.

He has also sent thousands of more troops into the region in the last 48 hours.

How in the holy **** is that "bringing our troops home?"

 

You want them out of the Middle East or not? I do, and now we are one step closer. You dont, I suppose.

I mean, I know it's not on Obama level troop surges, but another few thousand troops into the area in response to several thousand leaving Iraq is a win in anybody's book...

Except people who hate Trump.

 

How are we "one step closer?"

 

No, Robster, and no one with any sense would think that Russia or China wants to help us in any matter in the Middle East. What both Russia and China want is stability and 'business-as-usual'!

They would want Iran to 'sit down and shut up' because they LIKE the situation they have right now, getting along well enough with these idiot Muslim priests in Tehran, who don't make any trouble for them, and who keep commerce and business flowing merrily along for everyone in that part of the world.

Russia enjoys having a 'friend' in the form of Iran, to counter the U. S. presence, and to provide a 'flank' to Syria's east. China buys oil from Iran, in spite of the 'sanctions' imposed by the U. S., and, China wants no interference or disruption to its very successful "Belt-and-Road" initiative throughout the Middle East, Africa, and Eastern Europe.

But, if the bad, old U. S. were to go in and obliterate the Iranian military forces, it would great huge instability, and at that point the Iranian people would probably really revolt and throw the Islamo-Nazi priesthood out on their asses! That would create a dangerous series of 'unknowns' for both Russia and China, and even though neither country particularly likes these 'Loonie-Tunes', fanatic Muslims ruling over Iran as they do, it is preferable to deal with them instead of someone they don't know or have any dealings with....

 

Russia and China would have no issue with Iran harassing the USA and most certainly wouldn't stop them. I doubt we could obliterate Iran's military, we could do extensive damage, but again, we would isolate ourselves, and create the areas surrounding Iran more dangerous to USA interests.

 

You are simply clueless when it comes to what war with Iran would involve and how it would go.

 

Since you think you are such an expert, enlighten us all. How would the conflict play out?

 

OK, Monitor, fair enough.

I never claimed to have a 'crystal ball', so, why don't YOU enlighten all the rest of us about what "war with Iran would involve". You have my rapt attention... but please be at least somewhat specific if you suggest that anything but AIR POWER would dictate a victory.

 

Ahh, the old 'Your either with us, or your with the Terrorists' BS.

One can enjoy the death of an obvious warmongering psychopath, while still lamenting at the increased military action that will occur because of it.

There is room in discussions for things like context, subtle distinctions, and a nuanced view on the overarching situation and how each action can play out. (The road to hell and all that)

You mean giving them back their own money? Yeah, what a lunatic. SMH.

 

For the moment, I guess you'll just have to 'take my word for it', Robster. But believe this if nothing else -- the United States could thoroughly obliterate and utterly annihilate Iran's military forces... and never even have to use a single 'nuclear' weapon in order to do it....

 

FYI, Russia and China would supply Iran with extensive air defense, it would come at a cost. I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing it now.