Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

Of course that is true. You try and convince our youth boys can be girls and girls can be boys....but it isn't so. You can perform all kinds of activity and try to convince them but there are those of us that will always stand up for the truth of the matter. Drives you nuts doesn't it?

 

I am unsure what you mean by this. Is this a marriage that the state recognize as legal, where you submit paperwork to the state?

Beyond that what make a legal marriage any less real than a religious marriage?

 

No relevance to legal marriage,sure and I have stated as much. But the conversation is not limited to legal, and the existence of legal marriage does nothing to invalidate other types. You have yet to show otherwise.

 

This is the Crux of the situation. The law does not recognize marriage based upon attraction whatsoever. The principle for not banning same sex legal marriage is that the law cannot discriminate on the basis of physical sex.

True enough and at the time I was simply using like language. We knew what we meant.

High probability of birth defect. And by making it illegal. How else do you legally prohibit something?

True enough and I have made that argument as to the only purpose of legal marriage, thus why it cannot discriminate in the US in its definition based upon physical sex. My intent was to note that it would be a relatively rare occasion for a consanguinous couple to seek a legal marriage as a form of legitimacy for a physical relationship, as many people do, straight, gay or related.

Severe mental deficiency.

 

You didn't ask whether or not it held up, only when they had legislated. I was assuming you were asking about a federal law as opposed to a state law.

 

Uh....no, but that maybe a lingual variant between our englishes. To make something illegal is to deny people the legal ability to do it.

 

I know the lawyers that got it passed through the Arizona legislature. My marriage certificate says "Covenant Marriage." It can only be between one man and one woman. It is legal and binding. There must be marriage counseling and divorce is only optional under the auspice of the Church. I know it is used in other states.
Apparently the "world" sees same sex unions as equal to marriage. They also see that "boys can be girls".

 

From the Wikipedia article of Covenant Marriage:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_marriage

 

It didn’t. There are lots of countries where they still have religious marriage. We just don’t here in the US.

 

quote me ever saying any such thing, or retract your comment as a lie.

Not really. Same sex couples go right on marrying regardless of your moronic religious ideas lol.

 

Which is what marriage is in the US. There is no other kind.

 

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You can't be more wrong. Going in front of a cleric/priest/rabbi/whatever results in you being married in the eyes of the appropriate deity, thus religiously married. Does it get you legal benefits? No. But the point of the religious marriage isn't the legal benefits. Until religion no longer exists in the US, religious marriage will continue to exist. You have yet to provide anything that shows how the existence of legal marriage invalidate and eliminates religious marriage.

 

You have yet to prove that. There is nothing about the existence of legal marriage that eliminates the existence of religious marriage.

 

Question: "What is a covenant marriage?"

Answer: A covenant marriage is an alternative marriage license. The laws covering covenant marriage vary from state to state. Covenant marriage differs from a standard marriage contract in that the covenant partners are required to attend pre-marital counseling and would have to wait two years before a divorce can be filed. In addition, a covenant marriage license could not be absolved with a “no fault” cause. The conditions for divorce would be abuse, adultery, long-term separation, or a felony conviction. Again, the laws for covenant marriages vary because they are legislated by the states.

Covenant marriage legislation supporters believe that this type of marriage would decrease the divorce rate; thus, the family unit would once again be a strong foundation for our society. Proponents claim a marriage that discourages easy divorces would hold the individuals more accountable to their partners and lead to fewer broken homes.

Opponents of covenant marriage contend it is based on religion and therefore is a violation of separation of church and state. Furthermore, there have been reports from people in covenant marriages that it was almost impossible to get a divorce because they could not prove grounds with evidence of abuse or adultery.

While the legislation for covenant marriage was originally to decrease divorce rates, the word covenant describes a contract made not only with man but with God. From a biblical perspective, marriage is a union of man and woman before God (Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:6). This is true of any marriage, whether or not the marriage certificate mentions it. The Bible says that divorce is sin unless there is adultery (Matthew 5:32) or an unbelieving spouse leaves the believing spouse (1 Corinthians 7:10-15).

Society’s definition of marriage and divorce is not the cause for the high divorce rate. That is caused by people rejecting the truth of Scripture and choosing to follow their own way rather than follow God. A law most likely won’t change how people value marriage. We value what God values when our hearts are changed, and this only occurs when we place our trust in God so we are in agreement with Him (Hebrews 4:12).

 

I don't need to quote you stating boys can be girls. You imply it every time you say same sex's can marry. One plays the boy the other plays the part of a girl and you know it. It's all sort of a sick, moronic game that you justify in your mind.

 

First, source? I sourced what I posted.

Secondly, nothing you posted here shows that same sex couples cannot obtain a Covenant Marriage per the law. Not expecting that any would. Most opposite sex couples aren't getting it. But legally, same sex couples can get a Covenant Marriage.

 

Non sequitur. Being in a marriage does not have any automatic "parts". Your argument works better for the transgender issue, but not for marriage.

 

Maybe they can. They can't force a Christian to marry them. I don't know why they would want, or look into a Covenant marriage based on the Word of God. It seems contrary to everything they stand for.

 

So the words Husband and the word Wife must mean very little to you.

 

Yup - for some Christians, love and acceptance are dirty words ...

 

I am unaware of anywhere within all this that anyone has tried to force a Christian to marry anyone. As for the legal Covenant Marriage, there is nothing in the law that makes it the "Word of God" nor can there be because such would be constitutional and the requirements of the legal Covenant Marriage can as easily be attributed to any religion and even atheist. Just because a person doesn't believe in a Deity, it doesn't mean that they don't believe marriage should be for life. Such a belief is not limited to religion. But as noted, even the vast majority of Christians don't want Covenant Marriages.

And you still haven't sourced what you posted.

 

A husband is a male spouse, a wife is a female spouse. I currently have two wives and a husband. A same sex marriage would have 2 husbands or 2 wives, assuming monogamous, more if not.

 

This is one of the dozens of reasons your side keeps losing this argument in the legal arena, you have no idea what you are talking about and instead refer to positions of sheer bigotry. No one “plays” like the opposite sex in same sex relationships.

That said, intercourse is irrelevant to marriage.

 

I'm asking about what marriage law the Federal government has passed. DOMA held up didn't it?