America in mourning: The death of Qasem Soleimani

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    "When princess Diana died, there was a huge emotional outpouring. These kinds of...like Elvis presley, in our culture. This general we killed was a beloved hero"
    Chris Matthews, MSNBC

    "Charles De Gaulle, comes to mind"
    Anderson Cooper, CNN

    "This man was a very heroic figure, personally very brave"
    Fareed sakaria, CNN

    "There is nothing new about American terrorist attacks against Black and Brown people for the expansion of American imperialism"
    Colin Kaepernick on Soleimani strike

    "Knowing General Soleimani was out there made me feel safe"
    NEW YORK TIMES RETWEET from a student

    "Dear #Iran. The USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us #Soleimani."
    Rose Mcgowen

    "Suleimani was part Niccoli Machiavelli, part Cardinal Richelieu, and part battle-hardened special forces foot soldier"
    Time Magazine

     
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    99.999% Americans, including, me had never heard of him till we assassinated him.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I had not heard of him either. However, do you believe that is a good reason to say it is OK to be responsible for the death of hundreds of GIs?
     
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    If I never heard of him how would I know he was responsible for the death of any Gi's??Don't tell me to believe Dirty Donald!!!
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The military and CIA are well aware of those facts. Whether or not the general public has heard of him is not really relevant. Those GIs are still dead and those minus limbs are still minus limbs whether we heard of him or not and those are the important facts.
     
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  6. Mike12

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    you had never heard of the Qud forces ? I knew who Soleimani was for many years. You must not read much, do you? it all makes sense now.
     
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    even Trump had not heard of him per an earlier video - I doubt Trump knew who he was when he picked that option from his menu
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most Americans, except Trump supporters, do not want another 10+ year war
     
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    Watching these leftist propaganda outlets, eulogize the scum, makes it clear who our enemies are.
     
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    I'm sure you have facts to back that up? Please post them. I'm a Trump supporter and the strawman you have attempted, is false.

    Signed..."Trump supporter".
     
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    This reminds me of their obituaries for Winnie Mandela. These MSM types have no problem honoring violent people as heroes...as long as they're on the other side.

    And that my friends is the difference between a pacifist and a traitor.
     
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    How many 'GIs' did he kill in the USA? The answer is......not one.
     
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    Yes you got us!! We want a 10 year war!!
    Come on really??!!
     
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    The Mullahs wanted him dead because he was becoming a threat to them so they asked Trump to kill him. I don' t know what he was promised in return but I doubt he'll get it.

    Maybe they didn't promise anything. We've been keeping the Mullahs powerful in Iran for a long time now by threatening them for no reason and they return the favor by the occasional terrorist incident or threat to Israel. Each of us throws another billion or so at our respective defense contractors and our duped warmongers go on about how stupid the other side is to dare such impertinence to sacred Amerika/Holy Islam. Life goes on.
     
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    This is all horse feathers. Either made up or taken entirely out of context. The Time quote for example.
    The full quote of Admiral Stavridis (Ret.) was the 16th Supreme Allied Commander at NATO and is an Operating Executive at The Carlyle Group.
    Not even remotely what the OP would have us believe. This is pure malicious propaganda and should be spit on by any person who believes in justice.
     
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    So what? That makes it "better"?
     
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    I see no evidence of American mourning there. Taking each quote in order;

    Appears to be an (accurate) description of how many in Iran saw him. Statement of fact, not mourning.

    Clearly needs context but I could certainly see some validity with the comparison. Regardless, not mourning.

    Again out of context so it isn’t clear whether it is his opinion or reporting others opinion and not clear whether it is an American opinion. Still not really mourning.

    A statement of personal political opinion (exaggerated and spun but not entirely invalid). Not even directly about Solemani, let alone mourning.

    Anonymous quote without context. American? Mourning? Real? Who knows?

    Another statement of personal political opinion (much more exaggerated and spun that Kaepernick – McGowen is a bit of a kook). Still not mourning though.

    Another arguably valid comparison and factual description of the man, especially in relation to how he was perceived by his supporters. Neutral reporting, not mourning.
     
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    OMG. I am wrong. He was a saint.
     
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    Well, he did fight against GIs who just happened to be in his bailiwick. Silly bloke, I know.
     
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    The only way to ensure peace is through Superior fire power and the willingness to use it.

    Begging and sniveling is not how you appreciate countries like Iran. They don't respect that.
     
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    OMG. I did not realize the whole world was his bailiwick.
     
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    Well, he did fight against GIs who just happened to be in his bailiwick. Silly bloke, I know.
    Okay.....who did he kill ~ say.......in Australia?
     
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    OMG. I did not realize he had to kill all over the world to be guilty. This is a real education.
     
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    That's because Obama let him attack Benghazi to save his Iran deal. Suleimani's leadership in the murders of 4 Americans to include an Ambassador was stuffed to protect Obama and his legacy.
     
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