Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

What do you think of the recent findings confirming hydroxyl radicals that break down methane in the atmosphere recycle themselves instead of being “used up” in the reaction? Also, isn’t it interesting that as the planet warms, the tropical regions where most of the new hydroxyl radicals are formed expand, resulting in increased degradation of the methane causing the warming? It’s almost like the planet has it’s own methods of dealing with carbon in various forms that in previous times was “in play” and is coming into play again. I find it quite interesting.

 

Mushroom farm? Not near me.

The Last Glacial Period ended less than 15,000 years ago. Where I live part of the year in Canada was under a mile of ice. The river delta is still undergoing isostatic rebound. We're living in very pleasant warm period. It won't last all that long.

 

And how exactly would you make that argument?

Yes, I could be getting fooled by the media.

 

No, but you know that I'm not. Again, let's say that a bunch of terror attacks (in ANY country) occurred which were suspected as possibly being Islamic attacks but were far from confirmed. And let's say that people on the left said that the attacks were committed by members of the far-right in order to promote the idea that Muslims are bad and shouldn't be allowed into the country. What would your reaction to that be?

 

You DID see this sentence in the article didn't you? "The number of bushfires per week in Australia increased by 40 per cent between 2008 and 2013, according to a new study, but experts say it is too early to link this to climate change."

 

Any time you see a statement which compares a specific year to another specific year (The number of bushfires per week in Australia increased by 40 per cent between 2008 and 2013) you can be sure that this is an example of 'how to lie with statistics'. The only way to actually see a trend is by a plot of yearly data for the last few decades and then do a least squares curve fit.

 

Well I certainly agree with you on this point. We are “lucky” to be in existence at this point in time when we don’t have to deal with the horrors of periods like you describe here.

 

I did but as it was an article from 2014 and opinion is more certain now I dismissed it.
I also see that you dodged the question about 200 fires per year in comparison with over 4000 fires per week.

 

Those numbers are again an example of “how to lie with statistics”.

 

Scroll back. Proof vs. Evidence is the issue.

 

You seem to have forgotten my first post to you on this issue. The same evidence list that I posted would support an investigation into Islamic terrorist arson, but all terrorists are not Muslims.

 

I assume you're suggesting sources of hydroxyl radicals we had not identified will scrub methane released by melting permafrost. It would follow, presumably, methane would not add as much, or perhaps at all, to global warming.

Interesting, yes, but apparently not persuasive given the continuing interest in correlating climate conditions with concentrations of methane in the atmosphere.

 

What we do know is that historically high temperatures have contributed conditions that encourage the spread of bushfires.

 

And do you think the scientists are unaware of this?

This is why methane has a shorter half life in the atmosphere than co2

 

I suggested you may have mistaken media interest and coverage with what the pols are actually doing. Just meeting with healthcare lobbyists, far more numerous than members of Congress, takes a lot of time.

 

It was indeed what he promised.

What is a "move toward Sweden." Giving or not giving rich people tax cuts?

Anyway, what's so bad about Sweden? Here is the median family income by country:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

 

A better suggestion might be to have them use 'bio-mass' for power generation fuel. A LOT of the Third-World is covered with weeds, thickets, brushy wilderness, and other 'bio-mass' crap -- by many square-miles....

 

It follows, does it not, we should try to understand climate change so we can either learn to live with it and/or take measures to counteract it? Humans will face a climate crisis at some point in the future given the huge human population.

 

Sweden is a capitalist country with a very extensive welfare state funded by high taxation of the middle class. All the successful companies were created before the welfare state. Sweden knows that predatory tax rates on the high income earners will result in lower tax revenues to fund their welfare state.

Sweden is not a socialist country as Bernie claims. They have complained that the American socialists stop calling their form of government socialism.

 

That’s very low energy intensity however. Coal and natural gas are much better.

 

Well, in truth, you're absolutely right! The smart thing for the whole world to do for about the next 20 - 30 years is to burn 'clean coal' in plants with electrostatic 'scrubbers'. But, OOOH, that wouldn't be 'politically-correct' at all in the minds of people who think that carbon dioxide will kill all life on the planet by then....

(Factoid: Carbon Dioxide makes up 0.04% of the Earth's atmosphere)

 

I’ve posted several resources within this thread answering your questions. Some in reply to you, I think. The fact that you’ve not read them doesn’t make me lazy, and what does what I may or may not have known prior to this thread have to do with anything at all?

 

So you an advocate for immoral regressive energy policies.

BTW changing a post is a violation of the forum rules.

 

Those would be a bit more obvious, in my opinion. The topic of spontaneous combustion, while not necessarily related to CC in my experience, is one that has been discussed with some level of expected authenticity. I don’t know that anyone suspects toads of being able to manipulate matches. Where would they even get them, right?

 

But also high taxation of rich people.

Consider their GINI ranking:

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SI.POV.GINI/rankings​

Making up stuff again?

Nearly everyone pays high personal taxes in Sweden:


We have higher corporation taxes than Sweden.

Bernie isn't a socialist as Bernie claims, either, unless like Jimmy Carter lusted after women, it's in his heart.