Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.

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  1. icehole3

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    Oh, what a choice!
    On the one hand, we have a AG who has the ability to dig much deeper than the IG.
    On the other hand, we have a outraged leftist forum poster who disagrees with anything that doesn't fit his own narrative.
     
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    The GAO also said Obama broke the law releasing Bergdahl so...
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words, since we can not really affect underlying issues that cause people to illegally cross our borders, bend over and grab the ankles, America and face the onslaught?

    Did you know,

    Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent?
     
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    His personal lawyer was in Ukraine on his behalf shaking them down to hurt Biden
     
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    Yes and they are essentially immaterial, if they were Trump or Giuliani's that would be different but this is just the impression of a witness who is being prosecuted for dishonesty offences?
     
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    Lol...Barr is lying and everyone knows it.
    He has his head stuck so far up trump's ass that he hasn't seen daylight in years.
    When you hire thugs, criminals and foreign agents to run your campaign, it attracts the attention of law enforcement agencies. That's not spying, that's justice.
    And as one of trump's henchmen, he's already skating on thin ice when it comes to engaging in criminal activity.
    I'm not surprised that he's now trying to blow smoke up a voter's ass with his blatant lies to distract from his dereliction of duty.
     
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    How about now?

    Ukraine Launches Investigation Into Alleged Surveillance of Marie Yovanovitch

     
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    There are communications with Giuliani contained in these documents.
     
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    I obviously disagree with the surveillance of, and the harassment of Marie Yovanovitch. But what I won't apologize for, is my contempt at her wailing for her job back. Especially when she got to be a cushy professor for free essentially. I think Trump should have just fired her, and he didn't need cause or reason. Just do it.

    This is the same thing as Comey: Stop creating headaches for yourself by claiming a reason(to be debunked) for the act. You're PRESIDENT. You have the right to fire whomever.
     
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    Oh, yes. Obviously that means that Bonespurs is A-OK! It's wonderful to extort other countries to personally benefit you in elections! Yay!!!! Hoooraaaayyy!!
     
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    Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.
    For those of us who care about the Constitution & our elected government, this is powerful new evidence lending credence to that already uncovered by several Congressional committee investigations into Trump administration dealings. This new evidence makes it ever more apparent, that Republican leaders aren't interested in protecting the Constitution they swore oaths to "preserve, protect & defend." Instead, they are totally committed to protect one individual man--Donald Trump--regardless of the cost of that intent in terms of destruction to our existing government, or to the individual rights we have all enjoyed under the Constitution. Such blind obedience & servitude, by any political party toward any individual, has never been apparent in America during its entire history. Every one of them does themselves & this nation, a historic dishonor thru such actions. :(
     
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    The really sad thing here is that the one with the power to "fire" someone, was the one with criminal intent. Yovanovitch was doing her job & doing it well. She was protecting the country & honoring the law, but she was harassed & ultimately disenfranchised by a President who saw her as a barrier to his intent to ignore & break the law. Trump is not only a con man & a crook, he's a real danger to our Constitutional government & our individual freedoms & rights. His treatment of Yovanovitch demonstrates that truth.
     
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    He has the power to fire them, but not the power to make up reasons for doing so. He doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut. By unfairly attacking them at the same time, he also provided circumstantial evidence that the reason for their firing may have been to cover-up or to prepare a cover-up for crimes. And, firing employees in order to cover-up a presidential crime would NOT be within his powers and constitute an "abuse of power."
     
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    Violating the law is no longer worthy of a conviction :)
     
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    The IG confirmed what Nunes has been saying for a long time, and that fraudulent evidence was presented to the FISA court and exculpatory evidence was altered. This isn't over by a long shot, it's only beginning.
     
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    What matters is Durham's investigation, the FBI can't investigate itself.
     
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    They got the funds, you're saying a delay is impeachable, LOL?
     
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    That's what scares them.
     
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    What did that ass-kisser claim? He claimed that the origins of the Russia Investigation were magically illegal in unicorn land.

    That's not what the IG report concluded.
     
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    When is Burl Ives going to issue his report?
     
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    Was there a legitimate reason to investigate how the VP's son got a job he was unqualified for in a corrupt country at a well known corrupt company while his dad was in charge of giving taxpayer money to Ukraine?

    Yes.

    Yes there is.

    No one is above the law, to quote our leftist friends.
     
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    Barr is lying and everyone knows it.
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    Abuse of Power is Impeachable.

    Trump refusing to notify Congress about the delay or to explain his policy justification for the delay is merely illegal.
     
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    At the most advantageous to President Trump and the GOP time.

    Did you think otherwise?
     

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