Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously the GAO opinion is not actionable.
     
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    You mean the presidents personal lawyer and a man with decades of experience rooting out organized crime by shutting down the NY mafia.

    Anybody find any more handwritten notes laying around today?

    But sure. Trump launched a sekret operation to get rid of what's her face instead of just calling her up and saying "you're fired".
     
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    No, I go and read up on the documents about those investigations and the entire IMF situation that were crafted and reported on in the Ukraine prior to 2019 when this was even an issue. You should try it, its very illuminating.

    And you seem to be hung up on Biden as though he was a singular individual carrying out his own personal wishes. Which is frankly ridiculous if you have even a basic understanding on foreign aid and how it gets approved or denied. It's almost laughable at this point.

    Heck, even Bidens own words aren't in line with reality, as his trip to the Ukraine was in Dec, while Shokin was removed by the Ukrainian Parlimentary Vote in March.

    And Finally: "Hired to help a known corrupt country lobby the US Govt". What an utter and complete misrepresentation of the entire issue. Burisma is an LNG Company. The owner was a member of Govt who was dismissed in 2012. Hunter didn't join the board till 2014. Zlochevsky was not in good standing with the Ukraine Govt when Hunter was brought on board, so I'm not sure how you think he was supposed to help the Ukraine Govt lobby the US.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It helped Burisma to lobby our government to get off the corrupt list.
     
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    Your boss doesn't have to give you a reason to be fired. It's a little kept secret about that process.
     
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    Hunter was brought on board to ward off investigations into Burisma.

    Whatever, this impeachment farce will be over in two weeks at which point Trump will have been acquitted, forever, as Nancy would say.
     
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    That's your claim not mine, I showed you a link where the AG said he was spied on. Here's another link of Barr explaining to you outraged lefties what the IG's job was and what the IG report meant so you won't keep getting things twisted. These are his words not mine.

    JAN CRAWFORD: The Inspector General is looking at only, it is my understanding, a small part of this? Is that correct? the FISA warrant?

    WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, I wouldn't say small but he's looking at a discrete area that is- that is you know, important, which is the use of electronic surveillance that was targeted at Carter Page.

    JAN CRAWFORD: And could he have… could you have just said I want to expand this investigation? Why did you feel it was necessary to turn to John Durham?

    WILLIAM BARR: Well the inspector general at the department, Mike Horowitz, who you know is a superb government official he has limited powers. He doesn't have the power to compel testimony, he doesn't have the power really to investigate beyond the current cast of characters at the Department of Justice. His ability to get information from former officials or from other agencies outside the department is very limited

    JAN CRAWFORD: So he wouldn't have been able to go and try to speak with some of the former officials who are making these decisions, necessarily?

    WILLIAM BARR: Right

    JAN CRAWFORD: If they are not in the department anymore.

    WILLIAM BARR: Right

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/willia...is-morning-jan-crawford-exclusive-2019-05-31/
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Then convince a domestic investigative agency to launch an investigation instead of pressuring a foreign government to announce the investigation by holding up hundreds of millions in military aid and threatening to cut off all foreign assistance.
     
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    We have a train and it's picking up steam. :)

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    I appreciate the effort to use historical data, but you severely overstate the case.

    The House GOP lost a grand total of two seats following the Clinton impeachment and then they won the Presidency in 2000 despite a very popular Democratic candidate and a very good economy.

    And that's not even taking into account the fact that public support for Clinton's impeachment never reached above 30% (Trump is at 50%), that Clinton's popularity was about 20 points higher than Trump, and that Clinton was exponentially better at compartamentalizing the presidency away from impeachment.
     
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    All aboard the FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS Train!
     
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    It is? Do tell!
     
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    All aboard another humiliating defeat for you in 2020. :)
     
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    Impeachment Articles Are.
     
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    It must be totally untrue!

    "Not actionable" as in a crime, not as far as impeachment goes and certainly not irrelevant in public opinion.
     
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    Yea, it will fail in the Senate and the Democrats will be laughed out of the chamber. lol
     
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    Like what happened in 2018?
     
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    Parnas' version of them, like I said if these were notes from Giuliani or Trump that would be different.
     
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    You should read more carefully.

    Shokin was removed twice. He resigned, later returned, then was removed by Parliament later.

    But sure.

    I mean in this 2014 article, Biden was clearly hired for his expertise, and nothing else. It wasn't like Democrats were asking for more aid and funding for Burisma when they were being investigated for corruption or anything. Oh wait.

    https://time.com/2964493/ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-burisma/
     
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    Yes. The Senate will "laugh at" damning evidence and testimony. That they know is true, and ugly. And that they know will mark them for the rest of their lives.

    HAWHAWHAW!
     
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    OMB days no law was violated.

    This is more liberal hysteria and Trump TDS.
     
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    Great analysis! You've obviously quit your job to follow these events full-time.
     
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    Yes, the GAO is loaded with craaaaaaazy "libruls"!

    Good point!
     
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    Uh...huh.
    Except that the IMF's 20b loan guarantee that was approved 1 month prior to the US's was what got the US to open itself up. Also, the IMF's approval also got the Japanese and the EU to put in 1.6b. Neither of whom gives a crap about Hunter Biden or anything a LNG company board member would say.

    Well it failed miserably as investigations continued into 2016 and 2017. Funny how that didn't work at all.
     
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    Crazy libs who want to be heard. And the media loves it.
     

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