Trump followers demand their Jack Nicholson moment.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Basically, Giuliani and Dowd saw arranging their representation of players in the Ukraine schemes as a way to abuse the system by making bogus claims of attorney client privilege.

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    Once Furman and Parnas had been arrested they contacted Dowd's office to get them out of jail. It soon became clear to Parnas that Dowd's real client was Crooked Donald and Parnas best interests were taking a back seat. So he fired Dowd and sought representation from another attorney.
     
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    What specific crime is he being charged with ?? You have nothing. Pelosi has run that which the founders feared - a purely partisan attempt to remove an elected President from office. She and her cohorts in the Banana Republic Party will wear this albatross forever.
     
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    Parnas is the new Judith Sweatnik. The Banana Republic Party is selling his ability to read minds in an effort to get a plea bargin. It's fascinating to watch the twisted logic machinations shown above.

    Interestingly Rush called this Parnas nonsense in November.

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    Solicitation is not a crime.
     
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    “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election,“ wrote Ellen Weintraub, chairwoman of the FEC. “This is not a novel concept.“
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/13/fec-election-foreign-trump-1364598
     
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    Why isn’t the crime of solicitation in the articles ??
     
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    Trump wasn't soliciting anything of value.
     
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    The tape of Biden bragging about bribery is on YouTube.
     
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    Huh? How would Ukraine announcing an investigation of Biden not be valuable to his re-election?
     
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    Trump didn’t want an investigation into Biden. He wanted a political show.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...mpeachment-hearing-testimony-biden-show-trump

    Ambassador Gordon Sondland’s Wednesday House testimony was full of revelations. One of them is that President Donald Trump never seemed to ask Ukraine for an actual investigation of Vice President Joe Biden or his son, Hunter.

    All he wanted, according to Sondland, was a public announcement of an investigation. He wanted a show.

    This striking evidence first surfaced during Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff’s questioning, in which Schiff presses Sondland on what exactly the quid pro quo exchange was between Trump and Zelensky. Sondland says that Zelensky would receive a White House meeting in exchange for the announcement of an investigation into Burisma, the company whose board Hunter Biden served on, as well as alleged Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election.
     
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    Please learn the facts before making baseless allegations again.

    "So in March 2016, Biden says he told the Ukrainian government that their loan guarantees would be cut off unless they removed Shokin. He told the story at a session at the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018.

    “I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours,” Biden told his audience. “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’”

    The former vice president said after the threat, “Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

    But though Biden may have taken credit for it, this was hardly his unique idea. “Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked,” Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, told the Wall Street Journal. “The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD, everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden.”

    The people of Ukraine wanted Shokin gone as well, and demonstrated for his removal around the time of Biden’s threat. Shortly after that demonstration, Shokin was dismissed."

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-burisma-donald-trump-whistleblower-complaint
     
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    Bribery is bribery regardless of your CYA link.
     
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    Because the Council of Foreign Affairs braggery is on YouTube.
     
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    Who said Trump wanted Ukraine to announce the investigation?

    Parnas?

    Do you mean the Parnas hand written note that has no date on it and could have been written at anytime?
     
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    *LOL*

    You can drag a trumper to the truth, but you cannot make them drink facts, logic and reason.

    You guys don’t understand evidentiary rules, and have no idea what the underlying facts are anyway.
     
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    That's the point. There are no "underlying facts."
     
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    OK.
    Let's GET him under oath
     
  21. Lee Atwater

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    ARTICLE I: ABUSE OF POWER

    The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives “shall have the sole Power of Impeachment” and that the President “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”. In his conduct of the office of President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald J. Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency, in that:

    Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.
     
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    He contradicted himself in the interview and his comments are based only on his speculation and ability to read people's minds. Let the FBI interview him.
     
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    You have nothing again and again and again and again .... no matter how many times this drivel is repeated in large and colorful letters.
     
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    Seems like something to me..Its getting him impeached.

    Now the Obama birth certificate was nothing...That's for sure.
     
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    There is no crime in the articles passed by the completely partisan vote of the Banana Republic Party House members. Those same people however keep claiming that there is a crime stating that any jury would convict Trump and Senate witnesses would further incriminate him.

    Trump’s impeachment vote in the House was the action feared by the Founders - a politically motivated impeachment by the majority party in the House of Representatives.
     

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