BREAKING: Bolton to Claim Trump Held Up Ukraine Military Aid Over Biden Investigations

False.

They called for a status of the aid, but they never found out that it was frozen until after the call.

We've went over this many times before.

Pay attention.

 

It's possible to dislike someone's policy positions without presuming they are lying all or most of the time.

Ergo:

I dislike a lot of Bolton's policy positions but I don't think he's an habitual liar.

I dislike a lot of Trump's policy positions but I do think he's an habitual liar.

A person's propensity for mendacity is entirely separate from my fondness or lack of for them.

Simple really?

 

So far no proof that anyone has done that. But the constitution gives the house the right to impeach Trump with out Trump or anyone else telling them how to go about it.. Also he's being investigated by the Southern district of New York for possible crimes Trump committed within its jurisdiction. He sure is being investigated a lot and by more than one entity.

The man-child president has slapped many in the face. He called Jerry Naddler the head of the Judiciary Committee a sleaze bag. He called Nancy Pelosi crazy, He called Adam Schiff a low life. He calls Hillary Clinton Crooked Hillary,.He's called Joe Biden sleepy and creepy. I'm not saying that politicians don't call their rivals names on occasion but His Impeachness does it repeatedly and far more often than others. So he has slapped the face of other politicians through his contempt and constant name calling thus making an ass of himself and tearing away at the dignity of the Presidency.

The only fallacy here is that you contend to Know what's on the minds and in the hearts and souls of all Democrats in congress at all times. Displaying what is known Psychology as symptoms of paranoid delusion.

 

Simple really?

More like convenient.

 

What policy positions of Trump's do you dislike?

 

The belief of 17 witnesses in the state department and the Embassy who all knew Trump was asking Ukraine to announce investigations into an American political rival as a favor before releasing the missile funding. An then there's the release of the readout that confirms the same thing. And now we have John Bolton's book excerpts where he is confirming that Trump wanted Ukraine to announce an investigation into Bidden before the release of missile funding. . You don't seem to be real concerned about Trump abusing his powers in office..

 

False. There is no evidence of this. Stop making crap up!

Nowhere in the transcript does it make any connection between the military aid being frozen and the favor.

There is no confirmation of anything. Just a leak.

Were you ever concerned about Obama abusing his powers in office?

https://www.google.com/search?q=oba...69i57j69i61.8055j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

What do you perceive the difference to be between: "Those illegal warrants from the trump[sic] DOJ are only a problem if Page had something to hide." and: the break in of the DNC was only a problem if they had something to hide?

 

I still dislike him.
I just find this funny. Another Trump boy leaves the reservation.

 

You do realize that Hill, Sondland, and Vindman testified to their opinions; right?

Also, your so-called revelations are nothing more than what someone told someone else is in the book.

In other words: nothing plus nothing equals nothing.

 

Yes Trump often finds it convenient to lie.

Not sure Bolton does that. He's usually pretty honest about his goals even if many of them seem to come out of bizzarro world.

 

The warrants on page were not illegal according to the IG.
The DNC hack was.
Barr may think they were illegal, but he thinks anything anybody says bad about Trump is illegal.

 

If that's the way you want to see the world, have at it.

Come visit my showroom sometime. We have deals on bridges right now and I've got several I'd like to sell you!

 

Distraction. Not playing.

The point is, I think Trump's a lying shyster and Bolton, though truthful is, in my opinion, misguided on some of his views regarding foreign policy.

Apples and oranges.

 

The poster (that I quoted) had already conceded that the warrants were illegal.

Your post constitutes a moving of the goalposts. It's not relevant to this particlar chain of discussion. If you want to correct the record, go back to the post, that I referenced, and argue the point with him.

Here's a link:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...investigations.567331/page-24#post-1071378471

 

Annnnd...

More nothing.

 

Breaking: Breaking: Breaking: and NOTHING!

 

It seems like Sir might be interested in the deluxe range?

 

OK, whatever.

 

That's not moving the goal posts. It's correcting the record.

 

Talk to the other poster.

 

and now it's over:

BREAKING: John Bolton’s fmr Chief of Staff who worked for Bolton for 30+ years has called on him to withdraw his book manuscript from the publisher He’s abused executive privilege He’s attempting to profit off the impeachment of Trump All for a personal vendetta Shameful!

 

Got a link?

Edit:

Found one myself.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ambassador-bolton-withdraw-your-book-fred-fleitz

"Boo hoo" to that guy.

 

Totally.

Like that guy's IMBECILIC "Opinion" (and request) is going to move the needle.

Totally LMAO at Fleitz.

And a Laura Ingraham EXCLUSIVE!

Truly a Gamechanger that will upend the Beltway!

Fleitz has about as much chance of getting Bolton to withdraw his book as he does of Dating Margot Robbie.

Fred Fleitz?

 

Absolutely it does.. In the readout as soon as Zelensky asked for the missile funding Trump immediately asked a favor of him. The favor included looking into crowd strike and the investigation of Biden. The fact that Zelensky had to ask for more missiles tells us he didn't have any and definitely needed them for his country to survive. So the missiles were held back. Trump used his power of office to defame and/or investigate an Americana rival candidate Joe Biden. Trump should be remove from office definitely ..I hope your not pushing the old garbage lie that Trump was looking into corruption in Ukraine because there are 100s of millions of dollars of corruption in Ukrane in various forms shapes and sizes.and Trump never asked about any of these. .So by now we should both agree that that line of defense for Trump's behavior is pure B.S.

I think you know how assign that comment is. The readout of the call was more than a leak and it confirmed in a conversation that Ukraine was out of missiles after they were held back,That Zelensky was desperate to have more missiles and the first thing Trump did was to ask a favor of a country that was fighting a powerful Russian invasion. We both know that Trump could have asked our State Department and/ or our intelligence agencies to investigate Biden in years 2017 and 2018 but he didn't or if he did there was no announcement of Biden corruption. So Trump was concerned about Biden only when he was front runner in2019.
David Holms, Gorden Soundland, Bill Taylor, Alexander Vindman who listened to the call Fiona Hill the NSC director who listen to the call stated that an exchange of Missiles for dirt on Joe Biden was Trump policy. Trump is guilty and now we can ad John Bolton the former head of the USC to the list of those who confirm that Trump was offering missiles for dirt on Biden or an announcement of an investigation into the Biden's. You can't use foreign policy or the power of the presidency as a tool to investigate a rival American presidential candidate in a foreign country.

So you believe that Trump did abuse his powers and you're justifying it by alleging that Obama did the same thing. Thanks for your confession. We both agree that Trump has defied democracy, the American people and the constitution and it looks like you find nothing wrong with it based on the lame ass excuse that somehow Obama did the same thing. Obama is not the president. He's gone and no matter how hard you try you cannot blame Trumps abuses of power on Obama