Black History Month February 2020

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  1. UprightBiped

    UprightBiped Active Member

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    It's Black History Month...and history is repeating itself.



    Thanks, Mr Obama. Look what you have wrought.



    Why has the UN not addressed this?
     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    How does the current day slave trade in Libya involve Obama?
     
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    Obama is the man who started a war in Libya for the sole purpose of overthrowing Gaddafi.

    I suggest that you go back and watch that whole second video.

    If you break it (which he did), you bought it (it's his).

    Do you need anything else from me on this?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Muslims > Slaves
     
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    Actually I don't believe anybody gives a damn about Africans ... Plus they're damn sure not going to mess with the Muslims over Africans.

    From the article:

    There are 500 million Muslims in Africa, and it is better to blame the West than talk about the past crimes of Arab Muslims."
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think thats accurate enough. Certainly some people care, but not enough to make a difference (obviously). And those that could make a difference arent prioritizing it (again, obviously).

    What do you think could/should be done to allow Africans to pull themselves out of their perpetual plight?
     
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    Man, I wish I had the answers!

    I've seen/read a couple of times recently where African leaders are dismayed because their nations are suffering from a brain drain. Their brightest young people are trying to get out of Africa. What a sad indictment on the conditions of that continent.

    Non-blacks can't go there to help because it's all reduced to racism and colonialism! Are we even allowed to discuss trying to encourage well-educated black people from outside of Africa to take their education back to their home continent and help??! Is even asking the question racist???
     
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    The cycle of instability leading to poor education leading to instability is a tough one to break.
     
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    Thinking out loud..shooting from the lip..

    I would like to see retired Western blacks return to Africa, taking their educations, skills, experience, and pensions for financial security (the money would go far no?) and go help.

    And frankly I think American judges/attorneys would be a spectacular place to start!

    Someone on this board recently posted an article about a woman who got richer than God off of her presidential father's political connections, now she lives in the west off of her people's money.

    It seems to me that giving a voice with legal teeth to the average people would be a grand way to start.

    Then perhaps the wealth that the country actually creates could go into building projects and grants to benefit the people of that country instead of lining the elites pockets.

    Just a thought
     
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    Is it true dey made February Black History Month...

    ... `cause it's shorter?
     
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    To pull Africans out of their perpetual plight:
    1) Force the multinational corporations to get out of African countries. All they do is rape, rob and pillage.
    2) Close down the US military bases on the African continent. I hear other countries have military bases there too. This is shameful.

    Doing these two things would help Africa tremendously.
     
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    The Arab-Muslim Slave Trade: Lifting the Taboo

    A significant number of studies have been devoted to the transatlantic slave trade. But paradoxically, the issue of the Eastern and trans-Saharan slave trade organized by the Arabs remains unknown; it even seems deliberately ignored and considered a taboo subject

    Yet the Arab slave trade, a major component of African history, lasted more than 13 centuries. It began in the early seventh century and continued in one form or another until the 1960s. In Mauritania slavery was officially outlawed only in August 2007.

    The Arab slave trade was characterized by appalling violence, castration, and rape. The men were systematically castrated to prevent them from reproducing and becoming a stock. This inhumane practice resulted in a high death rate: six out of 10 people who were mutilated died from their wounds in castration centers. The Arab slave trade also targeted African women and girls, who were captured and deported for use as sex slaves.

    According to the work of some historians, the Arab slave trade has affected more than 17 million people. In the Saharan region alone, more than nine million African captives were deported and two million died on the roads.

    When they arrived at destinations, the captives were sold in the slave markets of Cairo, Baghdad, Istanbul, Mecca, and other centers. These slaves played various roles in the economy of the Muslim world. They were used as servants, harem keepers, laborers in fields, mines, and hydraulic yards, and as cannon fodder in armies.

    The United Nations has made March 23 the International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade, and UNESCO has made August 23 the International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and Its Abolition. When will there be an international day to commemorate the victims of the Arab-Muslim slave trade? When will an international research program address this subject? When will a project be implemented to identify, restore, and publicize the sites and monuments linked to this Arab trade, like the existing projects concerning the transatlantic trade? When will educational material be produced and cultural and artistic programs conducted to raise awareness of this criminal activity? When will a museum on the Arab-Muslim slave trade be established?

    https://jcpa.org/article/the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-lifting-the-taboo/
     
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    I agree with the first point, though I wonder how it could be accomplished/enforced, as those corporations are typically invited by the local (corrupt or inept) authorities.

    As to the second point, what part do you think military bases play in Africa's problems?
     
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    When will the descendants of African- American slaves be given reparations? Don't you think they should be compensated for the unpaid forced labor of their ancestors?
    I am not as concerned about the Arab/ Muslim slave trade as I am about the trans-Atlantic slave trade.
     
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    My Irish ancestors were slaves. Chinese American's ancestors were slaves. Even European slave-owning ancestors were sometimes slaves to Native Americans, who were also slaves to everyone else.

    Who pays who? Surely not only Africans...
     
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    These talking points are old. Sorry.
     
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    What type companies are you referring to?
    Explain what's happening.

    Can you give specific examples?
     
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    The military bases shouldn't be there. Would you want Nigeria to place a military base in an American state? :salute:
     
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    The title of the article was

    The Arab Slave Trade:
    Lifting the Taboo


    The thread is regarding any/all black history.

    Please feel free to post as you like.

     
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    1) Multinational corporations. The kind that take a country's natural resources and give them a pittance in return.
    I'll give you an example. Coltan, the substance used in cell phones, laptops, etc. comes from the Democratic Republic of Congo. The people who work in the coltan mines are very poor. Considering how valuable coltan is the people who work the mines should be well off.
     
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    That's what I'm doing.
     
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    I assume your govt is making these trade deals? What would you say keeps the govt from making deals more beneficial to the workers?

    Again, does your govt not set a minimum wage?

    Do you feel your leaders are responsive to the people?
     
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    I am an American citizen.
     
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    Depends on what they do and where they are.

    What are these military bases doing that hurts Africa?
     

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