Woman punches man in Broadway bar over MAGA-style birthday hat

Should it entirely dictate the choice? No.

Does it have SOME impact? Yes.

I don't trust people that have or feel no emotions. I don't want them in power.
sorry.

 

In general, if you support trump, you don't support America. That's it.

 

Coming from someone who can't even define one argument you've given, just saying whatever sounds good to you. Have a nice day...

 

And yet, they continue to respond to my posts with word choices that look like an attack to me. Not you in this situation.

My beliefs are just as valid as theirs are. And if they have the right to attack my beliefs, I have the right to attack theirs.

They want me to stop? Then THEY have to back down. I won't be doing so today.

 

I can define anything. I can define you as a traitor, along with any other trumper, and in the end, the terrible thing is that I will be right. You guys will be traitiors.

 

You haven't defined anything yet, other than giving a perfect example of ignorance in your comments.

 

Ok, here is a definition. Defence of trump = traitor to your country

 

Omg you don't even know what a traitor is! Alrighty Webster you have a good day!

 

But also, you don't know what America is do you?

 

I have emotions, however I process them like a grown adult. I have even seen cars with bernie and Hillary stickers. While my opinion was the owners are foolish, I managed to not act like a child and vandalize them.

 

You assume the persons reason to wear them. Did it ever occur to you that it might just be to show their support? Then the media came along and tried to make them tantamount to a KKK hood. Reasonable people began to laugh at them.

 

Me too.

But I do have some understanding and empathy of why the other person may have done it.

That doesn't excuse them from the consequences of their vandalization. It just means I won't hate them and wish them life in prison or worse for it.

Sorry if that bothers you.

 

So their desire to show support is more important than the emotional harm it may cause someone?

Certainly to them.

The other person may not agree, and their opinion is just as valid.

Sorry if you don't agree.

 

Well, I suggest they put on some big boy britches

 

John Oliver was (and still is, if you want one) selling hats saying "Make Donald Drumpf Again" (You'll have to look it up, I can't make these images work) These hats are a parody, based on the fact Trump's old German name was Drumpf.

Based on the photo in the OP one of these hats would get John Oliver beaten up as a Trumper.

One other thing I notice. Except on this board and at Trump rallies Trump is not exactly popular. He himself was soundly booed at the World Series and now even those who just LOOK like his acolytes are being beaten up. Free speech aside that does not seem to bode well for him in November

 

You might do the same.

 

Being obese 'flaunts' your belief that eating food is better than long term health. Being a tall hairy man in a dress flaunts your belief that men can be women. Eating Thai food twice a week flaunts your belief that Thai food is delicious. None of which automatically decry anything not aligned with those 'beliefs'.

Case in point. I was once asked to avoid admitting I'd enjoyed a recent snow holiday while attending a social function, because the other guests prefer beach holidays. The explanation given: "If you say you loved the snow, they'll take that as an insult to their preferences, and therefore a personal insult". My response - naturally - was "you must be ****ing joking", or words to that effect. Of course, I also asked why these people were being treated like emotionally labile children with narcissism issues .. instead of the functioning adults that they were.

You cannot protect people's minds, because you can never know what's in them. Attempting to protect ONE person's mind (based on necessarily uncertain assumptions about them), abuses many others. It literally can't be done without profound disrespect and brutal control.

 

How do you, personally, define 'emotions'? Lability? Ease of wounding? Because neither are 'caring'.

 

But you can't make them.

Their belief is still as valid as yours.

Do you not get it?
Or do you just not care?

 

Once again .. none of us can know what is in the minds of random strangers. We can only assume that in a diverse democracy, the adults around us are capable of marshalling their emotions regarding the diversity we all encounter.

The entire point of defending our diverse democracies - heck, of democracy itself - is so that we CAN wear what we want, believe what we want, vote how we want, eat what we want, etc without risk of violence reprisal.

 

I can admit, it's complicated and not absolute.

Those people that say they don't feel emotions? That means they don't feel love or caring, or empathy.

We have seen plenty of examples in big businesses what happens when people stop caring and only considering the cold logic of business practices.

Of course, too much feeling and emotional can be just as bad. It's why I am wary about people that display extreme emotional displays in public.

Balance. I may not love the criminal, but I will do my best not to hate them either.

Do you hate all criminals?

 

That's fine, as long as they don't visit their mental illness on others in the form of violence or aggression.

 

Why do you only respond to part of my post instead of the whole post?

We will NEVER have a world where there are no repercussions for your actions, weather those repercussions are legal or not.

And unless those repercussions are felt fairly by EVERYONE, I will do everything legally in my power to ensure those repercussions are felt by others, and not me or mine.

WE ALL STAND OR FALL TOGETHER.

 

Okay then.

No crying when they get in power and enact non physically violent repercussions for your morally bad choices, such as fines or jail.

Because hitting someone is all that matters.

 

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs but the line in the sand is drawn when they action those beliefs with VIOLENCE.

That's the time they need to be accountable for and take responsibility for their actions no matter what their beliefs happen to be.