We Were "This Close" Says Iran

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Just because something is an opportunity and military... doesn't mean it's right to kill. There was no war. There was no threat at all even to the US. This was just executing somebody, wondering if they are going to execute somebody back.
     
  2. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you can’t name a country that has done more to make this a better planet than the U.S.

    I accept your surrender.
     
  3. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Yawn. Same old anti American dribble your posting.
     
  4. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    There is not one. No chance they provide a name of a country.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    Ah. Personal attack and not commenting on my post.
    Good job.
     
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    One has to be really naive and out of touch to believe we haven't been at war with Iran. They tell us repeatedly that they are at war with us. This guy made a living attacking us and building proxy groups to attack us.
     
  7. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    What was there to address?

    You do not know what danger he posed. No way you could. So your view there was no threat is as accurate as that implies.

    In other words your post is speculation and nothing more.
     
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    There was no danger. You're free to source us all what the targets were and when.

    Nope. Only people like you, speculating that the politicians are speaking the truth with nothing to back their words up is what is going on.
     
  9. notme

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    Exactly when was this war declared? That guy is a freaking hero for attacking ISIS with his groups. He fought along side with the US on that. lol
     
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    The nature of classified information is that it’s not released. Thus no source to post. If you would like i could walk you thru why that is.

    Your opinion that there was no threat is solely based on the fact no one told you what that threat was. You don’t have the need to know thus you don’t. It’s the nature of classified info. Often if you diverge the info you diverge the source of that info. Your curiosity to know is not reason to do that. You do not have a right to know. Your not part of the equation.

    My opinion that there was a threat is that our intel said there was and this scum has been knee deep historically is trying to harm this country. It’s not much of a leap to think he posed a threat.

    Read some history on classified information in military use. You will understand then. Try the history of the Enigma Code and how that was handled. It will give you a insight to the world of classified inte in a military setting.
     
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    Hero.

    So Joesph Stalin was a hero as well? By your logic he is.

    You want to placed that label on Stalin?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A few common denominator between pigs and humans is that they both have eyes and pink skin. OH yes, and they all die at some point.

    What does this have to do with WW2 being a valid justification for throwing out the rule book ? Bin Laden was not the leader of a nation. Gaddafi was a huge blunder.

    Regardless - Should Iran start taking the leaders in our nation who engage in military activities against it.
     
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  13. Rugglestx

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    What rule book? There is not one, never has been and never will be.

    To have a rule book you have to have someone to administer the rules and hold those who violate them accouatble. Who does that on a global level?
     
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    Even Mark Esper, secretary of defense, says he hasn't got any evidence that there was any danger to anything. So there is nothing to be declassified. I can walk that one thru. But it will be short.

    Nope.

    Politicians said that. Same kind of lying scum that claimed Iraq had WMD's. It's all fake right wing news from a bunch of war mongering hawks.
     
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    I don't hear you disputing he was fighting ISIS all over the place, ordering his troops to clear towns and cities... room by room... and being very successful.

    I don't recall him fighting ISIS terrorists. I fail to see any connection.
     
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    I see you do not understand the nature of classified information. The fact that you are looking for info to be declassified already is proof enough of that. I'll stop trying to educate you on it.


    Iraq did have WMDs.

    Do you remember the internationals inspectors in Iraq, who were there inspecting what???

    Do you remember they used them on the Kurds?

    Do you remember they used them on the Iranians?

    Do you know why Saddam chose not to use them on Coalition forces? It was mot because he did not posse them.

    Do you remember where the Iraqi air force went at the start of the Gulf War? they fled from Iraq. Weapons are mobile. Chemical weapons even more so that aircraft.

    As we know historically he had them from their use by Iraqi forces, where do you think they went?
     
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    That ******* we just killed wasn't the head of a nation either. Now he never will be thank God.

    Iran should take as big a bite as they think they can chew.

    We certainly agree about Gaddafi.
     
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    Tell that to our leaders who constantly tout a rules based order. The UN has many rules that we have signed on to.
     
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    It’s mostly old white Americans who think the USA is the greatest country on earth. Indeed, their brainwashing started in kindergarten....
     
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    Well we'll have to find a new hero in the future.
     
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    Easy connection. Stalin was armed and supplied in large measure by the U.S. during WWII. We did so because they were absorbing a huge portion of the German military effort. They were taking causalities that we would have taken had they not been fighting Germany. We let out enemies fight to weaken each other. Again nothing new in history.

    So we had Stalin saving American lives by fighting the Germans. That benefited us.

    We had scumbag terror general (his name does not deserve to be mentioned) who fought ISIS thus saving American lives. That benefited us.

    So is Stalin a hero? Should be if scumbag is.
     
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    Awesome racism and ageism in one sentence, well done in showing how opened minded you are compared to old white people.
     
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    Soleimani as a high level leader in the Nation of Iran. Why are you being idiotic ? It doesn't matter that he wasn't the "President" he was high level leader.

    In any case - answer the question - Is Iran justified targeting high level leaders the leaders in our Gov't who have engaged in military actions against it .. How about Russia - should they do the same ?

    If you want to throw away the rule book - that is fine but, If we don't follow the rules then no one else should be expected to either.

    We have been breaking many of our own rules for many decades - and this has gone largely unchallenged .. it has been "Do as we say - not as we do".

    We were able to get away with this because we were the only economic game in town for the most part. Everyone wanted to play in our backyard so they ignored these violations.

    The world has changed - we are no longer the only economic game in town - not by a long shot.

    The other big change is that in the past - there was not much a non nuclear nation could do to us given our overwhelming technological superiority . This has changed as well.

    A Nation like Iran can harm us, both abroad and in the homeland, in many ways should they desire.
     
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    I knew you were going to say the U.N.

    Very sheltered world you live in.
     
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    Comparing Soleimani to some kind of WW2 situation is nonsense on steroids.
     

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