Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally Roger

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  1. struth

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    You are gonna assume he is gonna do something and punish him? Maybe that his fascist work, but not our govt.

    it wasn’t an attack, what Obama did was an attack. It was an opinion about one ruling, saying it wasn’t fair. The branches offer opinions on the others all the time.

    it’s absurd, and highlights how desperate you all are because you can’t win at the ballot box.
     
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    The sentence recommendation was changed unilaterally by the prosecutors not by Barr or the DOJ staff. It was changed materially from what they told the DOJ and got approval for. Therefore Barr and the DOJ, instead of having no discernible reason, had significant reason to review and change the recommendation. As for the attorneys there is this little thing called insubordination, not to mention sandbagging the boss..
     
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    Utter nonsense.
     
  4. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    This will come as a surprise to you, but a tweet is not a presidential order for anything or to anybody.
     
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    It’s pretty clear that Obama was kept informed about what was going on, but zero evidence that he initiated it, ordered it or “signed off” on it.
    If you say otherwise, provide a legitimate source.
     
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    Yes...that's a note from Byron York regarding someone he talked with regarding McCabe's testimony to the House Intel Committee (closed door session, I assume). It agrees with my own understanding - i.e. the first application for a Page FISA warrant was turned down by the FISA court. It was only after the corroborating evidence of the Steele dossier that the agency went back to the court and obtained the warrant. Not sure the exact corroboration has ever been made public, but I would imagine (according to the Mueller Report) it was in regard to Page's Moscow visits to Russians involved in the oil and gas industry and possible meetings with Russian government officials regarding the same subject. Mueller's report says that the exact people Page met with and what they discussed could never be ascertained and, of course, Page was never indicted. I think the investigation pre-dated the Page warrant and began with the opening of an investigation (Crossfire/Hurricane) as a result of the Australian diplomat's conversation with Papadopolous, in London.
     
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    So...you don't think the "tweets:" are "official announcements" from the WH, contrary to Spicer's statement?
     
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    Coffee Boy was added to the list because of his conversations with Mifsud and Downer and his own big mouth...
     
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    Sure, just not working FOR the Russians, which it eventually appears Page was not (or at least they couldn't nail that down)... Still doesn't mean he and the other 3 didn't warrant investigating...
     
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    That's getting a bit old, don't you think? No one is seriously attacking Trump because they lost an election. The Russians may have helped that, but it would be impossible to prove in conjunction with the actual voting. What we are getting tired of is the refusal of the President to believe the conclusions by his own intelligence agencies regarding the Russian interference.
     
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    They are official statements of the POTUS, per the DOJ

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...s_tweets_are_official_presidential_statements

    Makes you laugh (even more) going back and reading some of them now, doesn't it..

    Someday, in a very very tiny building, the Donald J Trump Presidential Library and Casino will be 80% tweets....

    And I'm sure yokels will line up to pay $39.99 to get in...
     
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    He does believe Russia interfered. It is getting old the constant inability for you all to accept the results and try to govern instead of coming our with these silly hoax’s
     
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    He was a known CIA spy, there was no reason to investigate, it was merely to spy on the campaign indirectly.
     
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    Will nobody rid me of this meddlesome priest??
    Also wasn’t an order
     
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    Sort of how Whitey Bulger was an FBI agent? Lol
     
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    Can you send me a source for that? The only claim I can find for this is from the DOJ itself and only after the fact was it disclosed. You'll forgive me if I don't explicitly trust the DOJ's word on things outright.
     
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    He was an informatant...speaking of, that was Mueller office that screwed that up.

    a federal judge already ruled on the FISA abuse by the Obama DOJ
     
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    An informant isn’t a spy, nor does it prevent you from still being a criminal. See Bulger, Whitey.
    By Obama DOJ you mean the trump DOJ.
     
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    So when Obama talked about pending cases, it’s ok. But when Trump adds his two cents its the 25th?
     
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    Bulger was an informant for mueller’s fbi office and allowed to continue to continue his criminal enterprise

    Page wasn’t a criminal or working for the fbi, but the cia. No, I mean Obama’s DOJ
     
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    Oh? Neither the AG or DOJ is in the Constitution, and POTUS is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. Yes, he has a right, he also can commute or pardon.
     
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    When Øbama exculpated Hillary in April 2016 while she was still under investigation. Crickets by the MSM, Dims, the left.
     
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    It appears as if Stone will remain free after the sentencing and pending a request for a mistrial, etc.
     
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    Then why was he insisting on an investigation into the Crowdstrike Conspiracy Theory?
     
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    Because Ukraine also, admitted they interfered. News flash more then one country can do something!
     
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