Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally Roger

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    A small group of butthurt's.

    And they are interfering in political matters. Tsk-tsk. They've dirtied their black robes.
     
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    Wanna bet most federal judges don't even know who they are.
     
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    No, not that I've seen. Though I doubt they would have needed to considering she stepped back and followed others recommendations of the FBI who basically cast her our and made independent announcements without her, and she was gone by the end of the year.
     
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    So the President criticizes an over-the-top sentencing recommendation by some line-attorneys and some judges get upset? Poor babies.
     
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    Similar cases, that is what the US Attorney said and Barr agreed. It's the 5 year sentencing enhancement which shouldn't have applied lowering it to 3 - 4 then with the judge's discretion down to 3 with 2 suspended and 5 year probation. They already bankrupted his family so there's no use in trying to apply a fine he has nothing left.
     
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    If your career was built on integrity would you have bought that partial recusal?

    I'm not saying your totally out of bounds about Barr as I think that a discussion about his recusal is fair now impeachment seems much imo. All I'm saying is if one's ability to detect recusal warranting situations was good enough to see Barr's you'd think they'd be screaming to high heavens on the Lynch situation.

    We could debate it endlessly but realistically where do you see this situation with Barr going ?
     
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    What is the final check on the judicial system for the citizens? The President as the Constitution states granting him plenary powers to pardon or commute what he decides are judicial abuses or special circumstances. It's one of the checks and balances of our government. Should he be tweeting about active cases, no. Oh well. He has the ultimate authority here.
     
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    What in the emails won the election for Trump? And the Russians goal wasn't to help Trump win but to screw with the election and so discord. They didn't particularly care who won and they certainly would have gotten a better deal with Clinton they would have walked all over her and her reset part deux button.
     
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    Oh now its' initiated, you mean did Obama go out in the field and set up the meetings with Carter Page and gather the evidence? It would be absurd to believe the FBI and CIA withheld from the President that they were investigating the campaign of the Republican candidate for PRESIDENT because they believed there was Russian involvement in an attempt to influence the election. This was one of the most monumental counterintelligence investigations in the history of the country totally unprecedented. I would not doubt at all if Durham's investigation leads right into the Oval Office.
     
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    He ultimately directs everything, he tells them yes proceed and keep me informed, to you think he just brushed off the fact that his FBI and CIA were investigating his political opponent, the opposition trying to win his job and defeat his party's candidate? Didn't he have an OBLIGATION to make sure it was a proper counterintelligence investigation when it involves private citizens?
     
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    It determines if it is a valid threat or just normal banter as the witness testified sorta like I look at you and say "I'm gonna whip your ass" when of course I have no intent to do so.
     
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    He's done it before. Forget about "the Mexican judge?" And...once is too many.
     
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    That's maximum and consecutive which would have been even MORE of an abuse. They made a lower recommendation and then applied the sentencing enhancements which should not have been applied.
     
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    He wasn’t the President then, he was free to have an opinion then to.
     
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    The annual meeting is to be held in Denver in April. The Trump attacks on judge and jury led to this "emergency meeting" to be held tomorrow. I wouldn't try and play it down.
     
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    No, the board Of directors meeting is in April the annual meeting of the civic club is in September in Puerto Rico.

    there was no attack. Nothing will come out of it
     
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    Let's see what the federal judges say tomorrow...and what, if anything, the judge in the Stone case says at sentencing on Thursday. I suspect she'll also have a ruling on Stone's motion for a new trial. I don't see your comparison between Lynch and Barr. It was all internal DoJ. No trial, judge or jury involved. And, yes, there were many who thought she should completely recuse herself following the meeting with Clinton on the tarmac in Phoenix. Instead of complete recusal, she committed to going with the FBI recommendation, whatever it was. Did she know by then it would be for "no indictment?" Comey says he didn't tell her. She did make the official decision on no indictment.
     
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    Ah...a dig at their life appointment and semi-retirement at full pay? Nah...I think the vast majority are aware. Even Trump's sister knew when it was appropriate to step down...oh yeah...that was over her service on the board of the Trump Foundation wasn't it?
     
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    Maybe he has a stash at Rudy's place in Ukraine? I've seen various estimates. We'll know Thursday. The judge isn't bound to the recommendation and I believe no exact number was specified in the DoJ revision.
     
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    Interesting interpretation of his pardoning powers. Where do you find that in the Constitution? I'd like to take a look at it. I don't recall any limitations on the pardoning powers other than on impeachment. He can't override an impeachment.
     
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    They'll issue a strongly worded statement. The left will swoon.
     
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    The reset button era was prior to the invasion of Ukraine by Russian forces. The consensus of opinion by the intel agencies and the Mueller Report was that their intent was to help Trump. The hacking of the DNC and release of the e-mails exposed a DNC bias toward Clinton versus Sanders. Not illegal, but an illustration of the Democratic Party being run from the top down rather than vice versa. However, the only illegal act was in the theft of the e-mails themselves and whether or not anyone in the campaign loop was aware they were profiting from stolen merchandise? Anyone other than the actual thieves (who were all indicted in absentia) who were aware of the theft but took part in it down the distribution line (such as Assange, Stone or anyone in the Trump campaign) COULD have been guilty of conspiracy. Mueller couldn't find sufficient evidence of that, which rose to the level of "beyond a reasonable doubt."
     
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    Do you have some sort of proof that Obama initiated (or ordered) the Crossfire/Hurricane investigation? The Durham investigation? Oh yeah...how's that coming. Think it will be finished before the election?
     
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    Certainly "more free" than he is in his role as President. Never a good idea to attack a federal judge. But, he's going to find that out, isn't he?
     
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    I'll take your word for it...why do you think they are calling an emergency meeting of the board?
     

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