Who is the best candidate for Democrats?

Notice I said the best candidate. And not who would be the best President.

Two things I need to clarify. First of all, my candidate is Buttigieg. I think anybody in the Democratic field would do a better job as President than Trump (yes... even Tulsi or Bloomberg). But I believe Mayor Pete would do the best job. Second, I don't believe "electivility" is a factor. If Trump's attempts at cheating succeed (and the probability that they will is shockingly high) he will be re-elected, if they don't work, he'll lose. Easy as that. And it won't matter who the other candidate is.

But as far as the best candidate, from a purely political perspective, I think that would be Bernie. Again: not necessarily the best President, but definitely the best candidate.

Here's why.

Though candidates like Buttigieg or Biden would ensure the "never-Trumper" vote, they don't bring in anything particularly new into the Party. There is no guarantee that never-Trumpers won't return to the Republican Party, once they clean up their internal mess. And I don't know that they'll like some of the things that those candidates will be elected to do: gun control, healthcare, climate change, women and gay rights...

On the other hand, Bernie would bring a completely new generation into the Party. I've seen the enthusiasm that young people have for Sanders, and it's amazing.

For that reason, I believe that Bernie, though not my favorite, would be the one to expand the Democratic Party the most for decades to come. And for that reason only, he would be the best candidate. Even though I'm not voting for him in the primaries.

 

Sanders is the best if the dems want a chance to beat trump. A change candidate will win but both sanders and trump are men of change although trump has been weakened by the neolibs and nneocons.

A corporate dem the so called moderates will lose to trump period . It is not tulsi's ttime and sanders is the strongest on the dem side. But he should have run as a fdr progressive not socialist imo for that is what he is.

Given over 50 percent agree with sanders on many of his fdr position issues this will help him in the general showing the pundits that globalism has moved significant numbers to left of center. This will be evidenced in the results of the general in nov.

I will not predict sanders beats trump right now but I will predict he wont be beat in a landslide . I will be more certain later on. I predicted trump would beat hillary but not this early in 16.

I support sanders but did support tulsi. Imo we have to move left to get some balance back with these parties . We have to have one party representing working people instead of both being owned by wall street globalist bastards.

 

Sanders obviously...hence why he is getting the votes. His socialist views are at the heart of then modern dnc

 

If Bernie becomes the Dem Party nominee then moderate Democrats heretofore willing to believe that the radicals inside their Party are not only not in control of it but also not driven socialists are finally going to recognize the obvious facts as truth and walk away from the Dem Party, period.

This will end up crippling the Dem Party for about a decade and meanwhile those current radical youths will be gradually growing up and maturing and realizing just how much more likely a U.S. embrace of socialism is to cause this nation to turn into Venezuela than a European style paradise.

If Biden were not so obviously struggling with senior dementia then he would be the obvious choice to run against Trump as the Dem Party's nominee. But as things stand now the Dem Party is . . . screwed.

 

We all are entitled to our own opinion, and what you are asking for is purely opinion. You believe that from a Democrats perspective, Bernie is the best choice because you believe that he expands the party.

I believe that he is absolute suicide for Democrats all the way up and down the ballot. While he does in fact engender a true adoring grass roots movement amongst young people, he also will scare away a sufficiently large swath of the population that typically vote Democrat, in addition to true independents. A sufficient number of these folks will not be willing to vote for a guy that proudly labels himself a Socialist. Whether he softens with the term Democratic Socialist does not undo the damage from that self imposed description. Some of these people may vote for Trump, and some may simply opt to sit this one out or perhaps register a protest vote for an independent candidate. All of those options are a political loser for Democrats. Additionally, Wall Street would absolutely hate Sanders, which means their resources would be directed at defeating him, and the market would not react well to a general election that was shaping up to be a likely Sanders victory; both of which will further alienate the large swath of people that are skeptical of him.

By all indications, it appears that the DNC agrees with my analysis, rather than yours.

 

They all stink
All angry little , Marxist creeps

 

Not with Trump on the other side.

The one thing I don't like about Sanders is that he is too much of an ideologue for my taste. In other words, he relies too much on ideology. Ideology should never trump doing the right thing. But the fact is that he does represent the ideology of the Democratic Party. So if anybody leaves the party because of Sanders' ideology, all I can say is "good riddance!"

The number of young people that Sanders will bring into the Party would more than compensate. And they'll have a longer life to live as life-long Democrats.

 

If they're not the heart of the current DNC, they most definitely are the heart of the future DNC.

 

Good luck with that assessment.

 

That's essentially my assessment as well.

 

The best candidate for the dems is the one they will not choose. They have a political death wish this year for some reason.

 

Glad we agree

 

Oh, so, Sanders, who is in his 70’s, already had a heart attack and spent all his life in government is going to bring something new?

 

Unlike Republicans, those who "typically" vote Democrat know the difference between communism and socialism, which is what the right normally has a problem with. We have seen Republicans confuse the two all of our lives "The most leftist Democrat" has been whoever happened to be running at that time. So they're immune to that tactic.

The tactic to "demonize" whoever is running is meant more to scare those who are on the fringe. But even most of those don't buy it anymore.

Fact is that, if Sanders is the nominee, once they see Obama and other Democrats in full support mode, demonizing socialism will have very little effect. And the new voters will make a big difference.

 

No. He's going to do something old. Except he'll do it for the first time in this country. At least that's what his supporters believe. He might accomplish it....

 

Today all your candidates are junk. Sorry. Then again you folks weren't ready, it was supposed to be prepping for Hillary's second term. Your weak bench was supposed to be growing right now, young up and comers would be highlighted in various mid-level cabinet positions with some air time and whatnot. Trump ended that, and now you folks are woefully ill prepared to run a real campaign. Except for Bernie, who was supposed to be utterly irrelevant going into Hillary's second term. Now Bernie is wearing clown crown, but not a single competitor is even remotely close to his supporters energy, spending, and other organization...

 

Pssst . . . Venezuelans were once celebrating the arrival of socialism to their nation as well. Oh wait the political mantra is ALWAYS . . . that wasn't REAL socialism.

 

So the average Dem Party voter is nothing but a mindless follower. Oh, the truth is coming out now!

 

The truly hilarious thing is that the DNC had three years to figure out how to deal with Bernie and yet instead they wasted it on this soft coup nonsense against Trump. The DNC has earned Bernie as their political albatross.

 

We all know the difference between Socialism and Communism. Socialism is the promise. Communism is the reality. Communism follows shortly after citizens who are used to liberty are transformed into subjects with diminishing choices and find that the central controllers have not only absconded with their rights, but stole their stuff.

In the past, Democrats didn't admit that their goal is to confiscate property from people they feel don't deserve it to pay for taking control over our lives. They have been emboldened by the 2018 midterms. While Bernie's people have talked about sending people who just want the freedom we've enjoyed to re-education camps, we know from James Hodgkinson's assassination attempt that genocide will follow as it has every time the promise of socialism has been used to lure suckers.

 

The problem with Bernie is that he alienates moderates, who make up most of the swing voters. I am not sure that rust belt states and rural communities would vote for Bernie Sanders the socialist. With the Republicans moving far right on immigration and losing on demographics, the democrats had a huge opportunity to become the dominant party. But if the democratic moves far left, that will alienate a lot of people who otherwise would have voted for a democrat.

The best alternative is Buttigieg. He is smart, likable, moderate, and has some plans people like. He is young, inexperienced, and gay, but being gay may actually make him more appealing to some people.

 

Bethan Les will do just as well as any of the current candidates.

And, yes, I picked the name from a random name generator. You can even generate a random life story to go with the random name and a fictitious candidate would be likely to beat the known crop of Dem candidates this year.

What the Dems need right now is a "Do over" and try to do better.

https://www.behindthename.com/random/?number=2&sets=1&gender=both&surname=&all=yes

 

That's terrible. Not only do you show ignorance about Venezuela, you show you don't even understand the political system in the U.S.

I have demonstrated that, if you are worried about becoming like Venezuela, you should run as far from Trump as you can

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/could-the-u-s-become-like-venezuela.553506/

 

"Average"? You don't read very well, do you? The "average" dem party voter couldn't care less.

Here is the relevant part you left out of your quote "The tactic to "demonize" whoever is running is meant more to scare those who are on the fringe."

Voters of any party who would vote based on somebody being a Socialist without understanding what that means are mindless voters. By definition. Most of them are Republican Trump loyalists, though. But some are also, as I said, on the fringe of the Democratic Party.

 

Bzzzz! Fail. If what you say about everybody knowing the difference between Socialism and Communism were correct, you would be the exception.