About the Holocaust

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by stan1990, Mar 11, 2019.

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Generally, you would get no argument from me on that point but I don't know if it's worse to be deceived about an event or to be ignorant of it.
    In other words, I think that it may be more detrimental to believe a false narrative about "Death Showers", a genocidal agenda etc than it is not to have heard of the holocaust at all.

    On an entirely unrelated topic, I hope that you and your family get through this pandemic in good health.
     
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    Same to you, bro. Older people are particularly at risk, so take care of yourself. If you need to be with people, wear a face mask and gloves.
     
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  3. pitbull

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    What about cars? Nazis set the world on fire.
    First, they burned books and then they burned people.
     
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    Seems like every denier here is American ??
     
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    USA did nothing to prosecute the SS members and higher ups. We did nothing.
    The Soviets killed any SS on site
     
  6. pitbull

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    I think Jazz is from Germany.
     
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    The USA was involved in the Nuremberg trials against the Nazi criminals. Also Joseph Malta did a great job.
     
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    WE only took down very few !!! The Soviets would kill any SS dead on the spot
     
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    The new Germany Govt did nothing also
     
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  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    What do you think? Its about time we string these guys up for their atrocities!

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    given General Eisenhower’s fierce and obsessive hatred not only of the Nazi regime, but indeed of all things German, this belief was at best a desperate gamble. More than 5 million German soldiers in the American and French zones were crowded into barbed wire cages, many of them literally shoulder to shoulder. The ground beneath soon became a quagmire of filth and disease. Open to the weather, lacking even primitive sanitary facilities, underfed, the prisoners soon began dying of starvation and disease.

    Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French army casually annihilated about 1 million men, most of them in American camps. Not since the horrors of the Confederate-administered prison at Andersonville during the American Civil War had such cruelties taken place under American military control. For more than four decades this unprecedented tragedy lay hidden in Allied archives.
    https://katehon.com/article/eisenhowers-death-camps

    God, I hate the Germans.
    --Dwight D. Eisenhower

    How come no one prosecuted these criminals for their crimes?




    Lets compare the way Americans treated the Germans to the way Hitler treated the J-Ws.

    Hitler gave the J-Ws a holiday camp by comparison and the J-Ws called it a death camp WTF? :icon_shithappens:


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    THEY EVEN SERVED BEER TO THE PRISONERS
    in auschwitz, some death camp!
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    Real Jewish holocaust survivors (not the J-Ws) that tell the 'truth' about the auschwitz holiday camp:





    Good thing there are still some honest Jews alive that testified against the HC industries Lying J-Ws.
     
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    Yeh we have freedom of speech, doesnt that damn constitution suck?

    Wow! Now we know why the American War criminals were not prosecuted!
    J-Ws dont hunt themselves down!​

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    The terrible J-W no less!
    Everything's ok now!
    Mistaked him for a german!
    Only Germans deserve prosecution for war crimes!
    J-Ws are exempt.


     
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    Very unlikely that Eisenhower hated the Germans. He had German ancestors himself.
    http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_tar_famous-german-americans
     
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    Germany has paid to support the Zionist cause in one way or another since the 1930s when the SS established training camps for Jews wanting to go to Palestine and the Haavara Agreement was established between the German Zionist Federation and the Nazi government.

    Without subsequent secret military and conventional aid there is a good argument that Israel would not even exist without decades of German assistance .
    In fact, virtually all of Israel's initial infrastructure was built & funded by Germany: 3 steel mills, railways and the trains to go on them, 60 ships, electric power plants and gridwork, highways, housing, water treatment plants, weaponry etc etc. (1), (2), (3).

    In truth, it was the Germans who made the deserts bloom", not the pampered Zionists who were busily massacring native Palestinian villagers and farmers in ways more brutal than those used by the SS.
    At some point, we must ask ourselves why would these Zionist Invaders and Jewish colonists behave so brutally if they, themselves, had really been treated so brutally as per the standard holocaust narrative (SHN).

    Apparently, the building of Israel was not enough for the greedy and corrupt Holocaust Industry extortionists as they demanded and got nearly $100 Billion in reparations from German workers and still demand more with no end of their demands in sight.


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    I don't see how blindly believing the SHN contributes in any way to the spirit of intercultural understanding and peace especially when the "lessons of the Holocaust" have been completely lost on todays Zionist invader/occupiers and grasping Jewish colonists who have so quickly transformed from being the persecuted to becoming the persecutors.

    I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm afraid that I can no more force myself to believe the SHN than I could force myself to believe that the earth is flat. The most compelling hard evidence to support the SHN not only doesn't exist, it contradicts the SHN and I'm only interested in the truth.


    (1) “The Reparations Agreement of 1952 and the response in Israel”
    http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Engl...Agreement.aspx

    EXCERPT “As part of the reparations, many goods reached Israel which helped the state economy to stabilize over the years. For example, Israel received new-fangled German-manufactured trains, which were operated for a number of years by the Israel Railways”CONTINUED



    (2) “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
    http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/

    EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.

    In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED



    (3) “German-Israeli Armaments Cooperation”
    http://www.bits.de/public/articles/cast06-02.htm

    EXCERPT “Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems – even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel."CONTINUED
     
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    We talked about it before.

    The idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine was once a good thing to save the Jews from worldwide anti-Semitic aggression, but since 1948 Zionism has developed into a radical, inhuman and racist movement like Hitler's National Socialism.

    The Holocaust should be viewed separately from that. I know that Zionists exploit the Holocaust for their propaganda, but that doesn't imply the HC did not happen.

    Doing so is a fallacy. "Israel" would probably exist without the Holocaust and would be as murderous against the Palestinians as it is today.
     
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    thats a patently delusional conclusion.

    Most all the german-jews that hated germans had german ancestry.

    If german ancestry had any meaning what so ever to eisenhower as you try to fake even an idiot would realize that there is no way he would not have fought against the germans, much less treated them the way he did, in his death camp, murdering nearly a million of germans on his orders alone.


    EISENHOWERS VACATION HIDEAWAY FOR GERMANS!

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    compared to:

    HITLERS DEATH CAMP FOR J-Ws

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    J-Ws SOP is to get rid of all opposition one way or another.

    Patton had many gifts, but diplomacy was not one of them.
    After the war, while stationed in Germany, he criticized the process of denazification, or the removal of former Nazi party members from positions of political, administrative, and governmental power, [harldly it was because Patton knew the truth, there was no genocide - and of course the author injects his groundless propaganda] "probably out of naivete more than anything else."

    Nevertheless, his impolitic press statements questioning the policy resulted in Eisenhower’s removing him as U.S. commander in Bavaria. He was transferred to the 15th Army Group, but in December 1945 he suffered a broken neck in a car accident and died less than two weeks later at the age of 60.

    Just like the attempts made on Andrew Jackson, the successful elimination of Lincoln and Kennedy.

    Do you have anything meaningful to add other than more bullshit?

    By comparison, Hitler provided the J-Ws with a HOLIDAY CAMP!

    Its a matter of record, no amount of Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-W propaganda can change the facts, they are what they are.

    I am still waiting for any MATERIAL evidence you have that any of the genocide claims are remotely true since none to day have been found.
    All we have is J-W rhetoric so far. It goes without saying that you dont post any because it does not exist.






     
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    Eisenhower was a Christian, not a Jew. His family has a strong religious background.

    Maybe some of Eisenhower's ancestors were Jews, but that doesn't mean he had to hate Germans. German Jews who hate Germany mostly fled the Nazis or were inmates of a Nazi concentration camp.
     
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    You are actually comparing Israel to the nazis ??
    Now you sound like a giant ignoramus and just as bad as the HC deniers
    Shame on you
     
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    If Israel was that bad : then there would be no Palestinians left ??
    Your comment is as bad as any HC denier
     
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    Nothing to say about the non-stop Palestinian attacks on Jews and suicide bombers ? The rocket attacks ??
    All you Marxist Europeans are alike and all made from the same materials
     
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    I'm not a friend of the Jewish people. I told you that before.

    I don't care about Jews. I fight against forgers of history and against followers of totalitarianism and racism.
     
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    Marxism is as bad as Nazism.

     
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    That is what you say ?? But you never mention the extreme violence from the Palestinians ( who never wanted peace )
    You’re just the “ new age “ anti Semite ??
     
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    One of them was my youngest brother! ​
     
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    Freedom comes first, then comes peace.

     
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