No Cops To Save You, But Too Bad You Couldn't Get A Gun To Protect Yourself

Jesus!

Again... because there is a possibility that things can take a sharp turn for the worse. And, if they do, there's a possibility that the ability to obtain a firearm for personal protection will NOT be possible.

Is that so, so hard for you to comprehend?

 

Right....the zombi apocalypse is closing in on us....hahahaha

 

Absolutely not, waiting periods have killed people and mandatory training has been used to both price out low income people from obtaining firearms and has been used to make training impossible to find.[/QUOTE]

 

Only if it is a long gun, you cannot legally buy a handgun outside of your home state.

 

And the only way to make firearm confiscation possible.

 

That's really dumb logic, if one has a firearm they can go on a rampage without obtaining any more firearms.

 

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Where is training hard to find? I live in MA, one of THE strictest gun law states and there are countless places for gun safety courses.
I find it hard to believe someone with low income can afford a gun, ammo and all the cleaning supplies yet can’t afford one safety class? Sounds like an excuse.
That being said...the gun safety course I went through was a joke.

 

I reacon there are folks out there that are childish enough to believe in the impending doom of a zombie apocalypse.

Why is it that it is only you that brings up zombie apocalypse in a thread where no one else is talking about or expecting such a thing?

 

You can buy a handgun in a state you do not reside in. That's assuming that you find a firearm store that will sell you a firearm (Rifle, shot gun, or hand gun, all the same) that will go through the hassle of complying with the law(s) of the buyers home state.

 

Where is training hard to find? I live in MA, one of THE strictest gun law states and there are countless places for gun safety courses.
I find it hard to believe someone with low income can afford a gun, ammo and all the cleaning supplies yet can’t afford one safety class? Sounds like an excuse.
That being said...the gun safety course I went through was a joke.[/QUOTE]

Low income combined with the cost of living prevents them from owning them, buying ammo, and practicing at the range.

 

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Many many more of these on YouTube ... watch the zombies die!
You'll be smiling for the rest of the day.

Some lessons -- the Good Manners rules for eliminating Zombies:

(1) Wait your turn. Don't just immediately draw and shoot. https://concealednation.org/2018/11/if-someone-has-a-gun-on-you-you-need-to-wait-your-turn/
(2) Everyone (every Zombie) gets 'served' once, before anyone gets served twice. Center-mass, follow up later with a double-tap to the head.

And as for those Koreans in the first couple of clips ... I'm sure I was not the only one wincing ... great spirit, but ... guys, there's an art to this: find cover, or at least concealment. Overlapping fields of fire. Fire low, walk the bullets into the targets. Division of labor, proper tools (handguns???? Shotguns? Bolt-action rifles? For a mob of Zombies? C'mon, that's why Jesus gave us the AR15. And you'll want a half-dozen pre-loaded magazines handy.)

And then there's providing proper medical care for Zombie wounded if any, which there shouldn't be, but it can happen -- it's called mouth-to-mouth asphyxiation.

 

It's not that training is hard to find, it's more that anti-gun politicians can require training that many cannot afford, it has been tried in the past and in Florida we killed it, but that doesn't mean it will not happen again.

Back before the Jack Hagler Self-Defense Act was passed in Florida, I applied for a Broward County concealed carry permit, I was required on top of the $500 application fee to attend a psychological exam by the BSO, a polygraph and a background check, total cost $475, then I was required to attend a gun safety course offered only 4 times per year by the BSO at a cost of $250.

I passed all of those hurdles, I then had to go before the Broward County Commission to be approved for my permit, I was informed by a Commissioner by the name of Howard Foreman that I failed to show a valid need for a permit, and my application was denied.

That was 1980 and after spending $1225 and countless hours going through political hoops and being denied, I became a very strong member of the pro-firearm, pro-shall issue carry license movement.

See statement above.

 

Low income combined with the cost of living prevents them from owning them, buying ammo, and practicing at the range.[/QUOTE]
Exactly

 

Which was passed in 1987, right? If one can afford a gun, one can afford a safety course.

 

Currently in Florida yes, but that in Florida, and elsewhere is subject to the abuses imposed by politicians, which could once again make such possession impossible.

Which is why mandatory safety lessons, should never be imposed unless they are based on and offered by nationally recognized groups such as the NRA, with fixed and affordable price caps.

 

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They are also more likely to need protection considering the areas they live. Gun laws cause more harm to low income.

 

Doesn’t look like they’ve changed all that much.

https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/

But to be clear, I was not complaining about the CMP rules at all. I was commenting about how easy it was to get a concealed carry permit in VA. I suppose a side point is that you can order guns online (at least from the CMP).

 

I don’t currently know of any such monetary abuses that prevents one from obtaining a gun.

 

They are also more likely to need protection considering the areas they live. Gun laws cause more harm to low income.[/QUOTE]
You should make a low cost gun for all those low income folks.

 

They already exist. The government adds the rest of the cost. In CA, ammo purchases require a background check.

 

Really, lets look a Illinois.

To obtain a firearm one needs a FOID, $10.00 payable with a credit card or electronic check.

For a carry license.

ILLINOIS RESIDENTS

• 16 hours of Concealed Carry firearms training provided by an ISP approved Instructor.
• Electronic Copy of my training certificate(s). You will be required to upload your electronic certificate during the application process.
• An Illinois State Police User ID and Password
• A Valid Driver’s License or State Identification card.
• A valid FOID card unless in the process of getting a valid FOID card.
• A head and shoulder electronic photograph taken within the last 30 days.
• Be able to provide the last ten years of residency.
• Fingerprints – Electronic fingerprints will expedite your application! Specify to the Live Scan vendor that your fingerprint application is for the Concealed Carry application (ORI = IL920707Z, Purpose Code = CCW).
  NOTE: Applicants will be assigned a transaction control number (TCN) at the time of fingerprinting and will be required to retain that TCN to complete the application.
  
  
• $150.00 payable with a credit card or electronic check.

Instructor applicants seeking to become a certified Illinois Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor must:

• submit fingerprints through an Illinois licensed Livescan vendor
• be at least 21 years of age
• a legal resident of the United States
• possess a high school diploma or GED certificate
• possess at least one of the following valid firearms instructor certifications:
  • Certification from a law enforcement agency
  • Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by a state or federal governmental agency
  • Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board
  • Certification from an entity approved by the Illinois State Police that offers firearm instructor education and training in the use and safety of firearms, such as the National Rifle Association of America (NRA).

Additionally, Instructor applicants residing in Illinois or a similar state must either possess an Illinois concealed carry license or be in the process of applying for the Illinois concealed carry license. Out-of-state residents, those not consider a similar state of Illinois, must have a concealed carry license within the state they reside.

 

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They do. It's called a Hi-Point. I bought two for less than $200 total. At that price they are throw away guns that I can afford to lose. But, they go bang ever time, although their accuracy is sometimes suspect.

 

To be fair, you are only quoting CCW and Instructor costs. A business owner has no real need for either, and a used firearm can be had for under $100.

 

What does the background check for ammo have to do with you coming up with a low cost gun???