White House, Senate reach historic $2-trillion stimulus deal amid growing coronavirus fears

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/stimulus-senate-action-coronavirus/index.html

So, they have gotten it done.

Final details still forthcoming.

is everybody glad that this deal finally happened?

Thoughts?

 

The full details have yet to be released. But over the last 24 hours, the elements of the proposal have come into sharper focus, with $250 billion set aside for direct payments to individuals and families, $350 billion in small business loans, $250 billion in unemployment insurance benefits and $500 billion in loans for distressed companies.

It looks like Mitch manned-up and caved-in.

Good for him.,

Everybody KNEW that Nancy would get some prime concessions.

 

The devil will be in the details, of course.

I knew that nearly all of the griping and political posturing in public by Republicans was just a way to fill the air and make their supporters believe that they were working while the real negotiations took place behind closed doors.

The next step will be to see if this can get passed by unanimous consent in the House. That is, of course, very much in doubt because any one of the 435 members could object for any number of reasonable grounds and thereby force a delay, at a minimum, and a full blown compromise process and then re-vote by both chambers.

 

Now's a time for the politicians on both sides to ignore politics and serve the nation this much needed relief.

 

Agreed, Mr.T.

The Devil is in the Details.

 

Big Government, redistribution of wealth, money to those who don't pay taxes, picking winners and losers in industry, don't let the market decide, no invisible hand, no offsets.
Please remind me why people on this very right wing leaning board have been screaming bloody murder to get this bill enacted IMMEDIATELY.
I'm a democrat, so these seem like a normal solution to the problem (that is why I would respond that Trump is doing ok in his response to covid despite his early blunders. Solid B- )

 

Money talks. (R)

 

Good deal. I wouldn't typically be a fan of this magnitude of spending, but it's the right move considering the situation. Businesses, individuals, and more importantly hospitals are all getting stimulus. There appears to be extended protection for those who're laid off, etc.

Now stay safe and stay inside!

 

Great that the deal is done.

Glad to see that Americans in need will get their checks..

 

I bet there is a 50/50 chance Pelosi is offended and feels cheated and throws a monkey wrench in the works. She might feel like Schumer stuck it in her back by robbing her of her power by removing her name from the deal. That would be cool.

 

I wonder what happened to all that pork that Pelosi was demanding went. The airline provisions: carbon offsets, corporate board diversity, climate change study, Retirement plans for community newspapers, $300 million for PBS and Tax credits for solar and wind energy, just to name a few. The angry old white gal is gonna be pissed.

 

Note that this is in stark contrast to the GOP's efforts after the 2009 recession to cut unemployment benefits. Supposedly, we couldn't afford them back then. The real reason was that they wanted to harm the recovery under Obama, to make him a one-term president.

 

Not all. Some of us get nuffin.

 

Here here!

 

How so?

 

She's on record asking for a voice vote for this.

She wants it to happen NOW

 

Very true.

Pelosi suggested on Tuesday that she is hoping to avoid bringing the full House back to Washington to vote on the package, seeking to pass it through unanimous consent instead. But any individual member can block such a move, creating uncertainty over whether that will be feasible.
Another option may be for the House to approve the package by voice vote as opposed to holding a recorded roll call vote.

Another GREAT Provision:

The stimulus bill also has a provision that would block President Donald Trump and his family, as well as other top government officials and members of Congress, from getting loans or investments from Treasury programs in the stimulus, according to Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's office.

 

I am sure she will be fine and I think you will find more than a few of those proposals made it into the final bill.

 

She has already said she is going to try and pass it via unanimous consent. That implies that she personally consents.

 

Exactly.

Everybody KNEW that Pelosi's "Entire Wishlist" wasn't going to happen.

Everybody KNEW That.

But, she obviously got a LOT MORE than she would have gotten had she done nothing.

I am happy with the Final Rendering of the Bill.

Political bartering it's finest.

 

If you make over 75k gross nothing for you.

 

Huh? Not true.

Under the plan as it was being negotiated, individuals who earn $75,000 in adjusted gross income or less would get direct payments of $1,200 each, with married couples earning up to $150,000 receiving $2,400 -- and an additional $500 per each child. The payment would scale down by income, phasing out entirely at $99,000 for singles and $198,000 for couples without children.

 

That's not at all true

 

I agree with some of it, but I am sure this new deal has to be better than the bill Pelosi proposed which had stipulations like

NO VOTER ID for Ballots
Permanently raises the minimum wage to $15 for any business that receives federal aid for COVID-19.
$35 million to the JFK Center for Performing Arts
$25 million for cleaning supplies for Capital building (see on page 136)
Mandates how states must run elections, including the nationalization of ballot harvesting, requiring early voting, same day registration, and no-excuse vote by mail. This way, democrats can mail in their own ballots for everyone.
Requires all airlines that receive assistance to offset carbon emissions for domestic flights by 2025.
Permanent changes to who can serve on corporate boards of directors for companies that receive assistance for payroll and operating costs.


$100,000,000 to NASA, page 17
$200,000,000 for salaries and expenses at Federal Communications Commission, pg 43
$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, page 53
$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts, page 77
$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities, page 77
$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training, page 84
$435,000,000 for mental health support, page 92
$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund, page 110
$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program, page 117
$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting, page 125
$500,000,000 to Institute of Museums and Libraries Services, page 126
$210 million for Social Security assistance payments, page 127
$510 million for Social Security administrative costs, page 127
$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building, page 136
$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian Institution, page 75
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for the Performing Arts, page 76
$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives, page 134
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs, page 146
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development, page 146
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance, page 147
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers
$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act. This sounds like it’s direct payments for workers. Pg 164
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
$2,500,000 Office of Housing
$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance Office of Public and Indian Housing, $1 million of which can be used as “additional administrative and other expenses”. pg 176
$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177
$100,000,000 for Community Block Grants for Native Americans pg 183
$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182
$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185
$15,000,000,000 for the Community Development Fund pg 188
$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193
$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance – pg 198
$7,000,000 to enforce the Fair Housing Act – pg 203
Paid Family Leave for Sickness is 2 paid work weeks pg 213
Emergency Family Leave now applies to all employers, not just companies over 500 employees pg 208
Guarantees paid leave to employees who have an in-law who gets sick pg 209
$1,000,000,000 for more Obamaphones

And, the Zinger: Ban on all federal rulemaking including non-COVID 19 proposals (extends 30 days after emergency) in an attempt to delay the current Administration from promulgating actions House Democrats disagree with.

Basically, stating that the Democrats have to approve anything Trump or the White House does.

https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/COVIDSUPP3_xml.pdf

 

^Lol at that "Wish List".

Much of that never had a prayer.

Still, Pelosi got many MAJOR Confessions, and it was a good deal for the Dems.