Putin Won't have it! WW2 was Wests' fault. Hitler was created and pushed to attack Russia.

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Not sign the neutrality acts to chicken out.
     
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    Can You specify what neutrality acts US was signing while the Jews were being gassed?
     
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    Same reasons why the US entered WWI and WWII.


    Sure Jeannette. There is little difference between being hunted down as a civilian because of your ethnicity with the goal to be executed, and a general famine during wartime because goods can not go from A to B.
     
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    pff.. you only got personal attacks. You can't dispute a thing how small the US actually contributed to the war. Not even half a million dead in total ... vs almost 3 million Russians who died as POW's. Your respect is only given by nationality. Very petty.
     
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    US should have dropped 10 millions gunmeet on wires, then you would be satisfied?
     
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    While the Jews were gassed? They were kept in place when the Jews were gassed.
     
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    pff...
    This is about history. We can't change that. We can only be honest about what happened.
    And the US, by signing that neutrality act, chickened out of the war for years and years.
    Almost 6 times more Russians died as a POW vs all Americans who died in WWII.
    That's what you get when you're not doing much.
     
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    Which "they" were kept in place when the Jews were gassed? When exatly it happened, can you specify about what are you talking about?
     
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    What neutrality act? Or you actually don't know what are you talking about?

    And in your understanding this is bad, that US lost "only" 500 000 solders, they should lost millions, than US did not "chickened"?
     
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    Read 'National Socialist Letters.' Goebbels was no fan of Russia.
     
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    America lost just south of 300,000 dead in WWII.
     
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    All the military cooperation with Germany finished in 1933 when Hitler came into power. Meanwhile:
    American General Electric financed German Opel that produced military staff. This was even after the start of WW2.
    American company IBM supplied Germany calculation mashines that were used in the concetration camps.
    American Standard Oil has sold to Germany a lot of oil which was used for production of the fuel for the aircrafts that bombed Europe and USSR. This was also before and after the war had started.
    France, UK signed the agreement with Hitler in 1938 in Munchen to allow him to invade Czechoslovakia and they did nothing to protect Poland from Hitler althoug they had an agreement with Poland.
    Yes, Stalin invaded Finland. And that was correct decision as well as entering Poland as it removed the borders further from the central part of Soviet Union. If he did not do that St Petersburg was quickly occupied by German army.

     
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    Standard oil was divided in several parts at 1911. How did it managed to suply Germany after it seized to exist?
     
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    Ironically, the U.S. intercepted a shipment of uranium from Hitler to Japan (in order for Japan to complete an atomic bomb with which to bomb the U.S.) The U.S. used the material, instead, to build the bomb that devasted Hiroshima.
     
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    The one you do not know about apparently.

    Well. Credits is given where it's due. The US entered really late in that war. The USSR was already winning from the nazi's. The US didn't lose that many lives. It is what it is. The US didn't do that much. Maybe you only think they did because American movies only highlight what the US did, while conveniently leave out years and years of the war where the US just did nothing.
     
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    The US neutrality acts. Dude. Look it up. Google aint broke.
    Also... are you an American... who doesn't know it's own history?
     
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    They where a lot of them, all before mass killings of jews started. Thats why i asked, what are you talking about? But you could not answer...

    December 1941 is realy late?
    They should loose a lot more?
     
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    Russian tanks were powerful... when they worked at all most were lost due to mechanical failure and not combat, they carried spare transmissions with them.
     
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    Almost a millionAustralians, both men and women, served inthe Second World War. They fought in campaigns against Germany and Italy in Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa, as well as against Japan in south-east Asia and other parts of the Pacific.


    Tell it to the Australian War Memorial.
     
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    Yep,
    Soviet Union is missing, they walked into Poland (from the other side) straight after Hitler, thought you wouldn't know.
    Stop reading dodgy papers. Hitler and Stalin had a pact, to share Poland among themselves......
    Inform yourself, please.
    Reg.
     
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    It did not stop to exist. It still exists, only under under different names. The fact that it was spliited does not cancel the fact that this monopoly of Rockfeller supplied the oil to Germany.
     
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    This was not monopoly, it was splitter in several parts at 1911.Which part exactly supplied Germany, when and how did they managed to get pass naval blockade of Germany? And what is the source of this information?
     
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    I replied to it... that they were still in place when the Jews were killed... as in.. did not see a point to help them out and stand by idle. Even worse. IBM supported the logistics in the death camps to make a profit. Paid taxes on it to the US government.

    Going to Italy at the end of 1943 is. The US fought just like a year and a half in Europe.

    Should have put in more of an effort to take some credit.
    You've been watching too many movies about the last year of the US thinking they were like that 5 years in a row.
     
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    No, they was not. Neutrality of US ended with Lend Lease act in march 1941. You just don't know what are you talking about.

    Why going to Italy? Why not operation Thouch, see and air war? Where should US atrack at december 1941. not to be "chickened"?

    More? How much more and where? You, who knows history not by US movies, can tell this?
     
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    Shawn P. Keller, Turning Point: A History Of German Petroleum In World War II And Its Lessons For The Role Of Oil In Modern Air Warfare
     

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