We Support Donald Trump II

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    if I address it and at a counter point you will just say I'm babbling so what's the point?
    No point.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems I know how to make enough money to be in the top 10% part of the taxpayers of the nation, and have business all over the world. Now I've only been a business owner since 1967, so my lack of experience and the fact I've never taken a dime from government will probably let you claim your experience as salesman at a hot dog stand, or whatever you do, makes you more qualified....

    So full of confidence, so lacking in anything to support it. If you are able to fool yourself, at least you have one. You need to find something new, you have become very boring.
     
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    This is what I wrote:

    "We can support shut down businesses with forgivable loans, make sure workers get enough of what they earned to pay their rent or mortgage, put food on the table, and so on. We have shut down a lot of production because going to a bar, dining out, clubbing, getting a haircut, going on a cruise ... these things kill people. What we should do is match the money people get with what they can buy."​

    Is it that difficult for you to say something relevant?
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    So you say. If you have all this knowledge, why aren't you sharing it?
    Still only hot air and chest beating from you.
    Still nothing. Just insults calculated to distract.
     
  6. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a fair question. The answer is I do and I have- but you don't hear what you want to hear, so you don't listen and reject it. The knowledge that makes people happy or rich or successful isn't a secret, it's just not popular- because people want answers that don't require them to change their thinking or their lifestyle or values. They are so sure that there is an "Easy Button" out there somewhere that they walk right past the real opportunities and answers they need everyday, because they don't look easy enough or don't fit into what they already believe. When's the last time you actually were willing to do that? Ever?

    I can write a formula for personal financial success right here- in about a paragraph. It's the same thing you can find all over the internet when you follow successful people's advice. Some people do that and do very well- others are insulted by the idea that the responsibility for their own condition is in their own hands instead of somebody elses, and demand somebody else fix it for them. Guess which category you fall into.

    The other catch is that to gain that happiness and success, you have to actually understand and live by the knowledge, not just mouth it. Kind of like diets. Only those who genuinely follow the rules consistently succeed; the rest just cheat on the rules, then say they tried hard and the system failed them. The percentage that do that is the majority, and they are all sure it's not their fault. At least- they are not going to admit it, even to themselves. Human nature, sadly.

    I can teach people how it's done, but I can't do it for them, and I can't force them to follow the rules or even to listen. When they scoff, you know they don't want to hear that their condition is one of choices, ones they failed to make wisely, and not somebody else's fault. Nothing will change for them until they can.

    My knowledge is not unique, although the way I developed it is probably is, and the approach to teaching it when I was actively teaching was. That's not the important part, because while knowing and understanding is critical, it is the doing and living it that makes it happen. You can't learn that or do that while you are scoffing at the path to the capacity you actually want for yourself. You are the person limiting your future- not me, not Trump. You. It can be as good as you are willing to make it- and I can't keep you from it, nor would I want to. I'd like to see a world of people able to be the best they can be. I know the individual can accomplish that, and I also know that most of them won't try.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    More good news!

    Trump Dominates Polling: Gets Landslide Approval on COVID, Overall Approval Ties All-Time High

    It appears that the attempt to “get Trump” on his administration’s coronavirus response has been another failed effort as well, at least according to the latest poll from Gallup, which shows that Trump’s overall approval rating has increased in recent weeks, in large part due to how he has handled the public health crisis.
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    It appears that Trump’s increased approval came via independents and Democrats, with support among independents increasing by eight points, 35 percent to 43 percent, and by six points among Democrats, 7 percent to 13 percent.

    https://www.westernjournal.com/trum...tm_campaign=lminetwork&utm_content=2020-03-25
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Sad, but true.

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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The majority of Americans approve of President Trumps handling of the Coronovirus crisis SO FAR. When it's over, his numbers may well be 80 or 90% approval. You're comparing apple's & oranges.
     
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    You think the Americans are going to side with the stable genius when there's a million cases?

    Maybe they'll cheer for him when it's 2 or 3 million... you never know.

    I can already see the 30 million newly unemployed people lining up to re-elect their saviour: Donald Trump.

    Keep dreaming.
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-media-gaffes-coronavirus

    :no:
     
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    We were talking about the COVID-19 crisis. You don't seem to have anything to offer.
    I ran a business, made money, got out and went into educating high school students and adults, taught hundreds how to start a business, successfully ran political campaigns, and all that time invested my money. Do you really think I walked past opportunities?
    Obviously, I fall into the category of looking after myself. I graduated from high school at 16, supported myself through university, and don't collect Social Security or use Medicare in retirement. Until this year, my wife and I travelled the world.
    How about you? You don't appear to have disciplined yourself to learn about economics. Why not?
     
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    That's because the wise people have learned from the past.

     
  14. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Would you like to post a resume and we'll vote on how qualified you are to post anonymously on a political forum?

    Geesh.
     
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    @Smartmouthwoman is a typical Trumper with nothing to say--well, other than cheerleading for Trump's zigzagging. In one week, Trump has gone from being a "wartime President" to declaring the war in nearly over. Trumpers don't bat an eye supporting that nonsense. Go figure.
     
  16. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    One would think. But then there's Bernie Sanders...

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    I can prove my claims. I'll put up $20,000 against your $1,000 that I'm right. We can choose a third party to determine the facts. Both sides put up the fee for the investigation and the bet amount--the winner gets the fee back plus the bet.

    I'm going to give your $1,000 to Planned Parenthood. :banana:
     
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    At least Joe and Bernie aren't malignant narcissists like Trump.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    What TexASS did to pregnant women by banning abortions is disgusting. I wouldn't spit on the governor's grave.
     
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  20. LangleyMan

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    Cherrypicking polls?

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    Your boy is still under water.
     
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    That Gallup poll just blew away all the silly DP talking points that have been exploiting the Chinese Coronavirus Pandemic.
    Trump just keeps winning in spite of his now rabid opposition.

    "The president has been accused of initially downplaying the threat posed by the virus, of supposedly calling it a “hoax,” of being “racist” for pointing out the Chinese origin of the virus, of placing Americans in danger with lies and misinformation and, most recently, of seeking to secretly enrich himself and his friends with taxpayer funds via a supposed “slush fund” within the Senate’s economic stimulus package."

    "It appears that the attempt to “get Trump” on his administration’s coronavirus response has been another failed effort as well, at least according to the latest poll from Gallup, which shows that Trump’s overall approval rating has increased in recent weeks, in large part due to how he has handled the public health crisis. According to the poll ... the president’s job approval rating had increased to 49 percent, up five points from earlier in the month."
    THE WESTERN JOURNAL, Trump Dominates Polling: Gets Landslide Approval on COVID, Overall Approval Ties All-Time High, Explosive Trump Poll Shows Stunning Victory in Middle of COVID Panic, By Ben Marquis, March 24, 2020.
    https://www.westernjournal.com/trum...tm_campaign=lminetwork&utm_content=2020-03-25
     
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    I'm not in a position to resolve the Corona issue any more than you are. My comments have been that the reactions to it have created a panic mentality, resulting in decisions to do things without considering all the other factors that will result. This is why we are going to see extensive collateral damage to our economy. Hindsight is 20/20, but being aware of and considering the collateral damages in advance could have saved us a great deal of self-harm. Of course, you disagree with that, because it's my position- and I think that is all that is necessary for you to disagree.

    You ran a business, made money, but- got out. So? If the textbook teachings on how to run businesses produced well-run successful companies, we wouldn't have a new business failure rate of 90% in ten years. I've founded 8 businesses, two still operating (gave one to a brother, who has since left it to a son) and those business have made us all reasonably wealthy. Not filthy rich, but that was never an objective. I still run my current business because I work for satisfaction and achievement, not money. Money is a by-product, a score-card. Always has been. More importantly, I learned how to be successful as a person; to achieve my goals, to be be my own man, to be at peace with life. That is vastly more desirable than the wealth that came with it, and not many people have it. I do wish they did, which is why I chose to try and teach it once I knew how to achieve it.

    I don't appear to have disciplined myself to learn about economics? That's a joke. If I did nothing at all now, I would still be making considerably more money than my expenses every month, my estate growing larger on it's own for the rest of my life. I owe nothing, have everything I want. My social security goes in a bank account, never used- just accumulates. To have succeeded as I have is outstanding economic success. If you can achieve that consistently, you damn sure know how it works. There are many people with degrees in economics that can't achieve success economically, let alone personally. The reason is that it's not enough to understand the technicalities, the math and process, you have to be able to apply the things you know with enough judgment and consistency that they actually can work and produce results. Liberals often think that if you have read the book, you are expert. If that were true- they could study up and do their own brain surgery. When I look at how some of them think, I wonder if that is not the case.

    When you can do what others cannot, you become the teacher- not the student. Of course, students are only students when they want to learn. Much of what I know of business success came from the advice of very successful people which I was fortunate enough to meet through business and connections. Some of those people founded world-wide companies, Fortune 500 list stuff. Most could give you more valuable advice in a sentence than you could squeeze out of an entire textbook on economics, and would IF they liked you. I had a CEO of a California bank chain give me an hours lesson one time in response to a single question. I respectfully asked when I had such opportunities, and was generally rewarded with invaluable tips. When the occasion is appropriate, I pass them along. It doesn't happen often, as most people seek hot tips for instant success they don't have to work for. If you don't value what I can share- or choose to think I have nothing to share- I have no problem with that at all. World is full of people who already know everything they think they need to know.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You sound so hopeful.

    But it's not like it hasn't happened before.

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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You can prove what claims, exactly?
     
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    I didn't care the first time
    There simply is no point.
     

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