Yes, Blame China for the Virus

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will get back to you in this thread.
     
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    Incorrect. The GOP were going, it's just a flu, it won't be so bad, it will vanish, we can open up at Easter. The GOP had it totally wrong. Trump hauled in plane after plane after with Americans from Wuhan after Wuhan went on lock down. Heck it still happened even when Donald put a ban on travel from China.

    It's just fake news to claim the left was downplaying it better than the GOP was doing.

    And I don't see where China lied. The doctor reported this on december 30th. The WHO was notified on december 31st. Concluded it wasn't Sars but something else in a week. Lock down when they knew it was contagious within 3 weeks. Just fake news they knew this for 3 months. Just right wingers blaming foreigners. Rather typical.

    We find death at right wing governments in the millions all the time.
     
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    How do you know these things? Covid is acting just like bad flu.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...Yeah, that’s why the whole world's medical systems are suddenly being swamped by sick and dying people. No big deal, eh?
    People who keep listening to trump and his ilk are going to end up dead or losing loved ones needlessly.
     
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    Just following the news and not having amnesia.

    Yeah so. Cancer is also just some cells that divide badly.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Its time to shut down state borders as well. Unless you're delivering shipments, conducting health or government business, or some similar in importance, then you shouldn't be allowed to flee an infected area when you could just shelter in place.
     
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    That's not saying much when you consider our 'rightie tightie' president let us lose more than China has.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Oh you misunderstood then. Its not about isolating America from the world, its about isolating China (and other 3rd world hell holes that refuse to get their act together) from the world. The "we're in it together" mentality works fine but China & Co. shouldn't be invited.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    No, we will not be enslaving people to crank out IPhone parts and alike.
     
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    Dunno what you mean. A doctor reported this on december the 30th that this was no general flu he knew. WHO was notified the next day. It than took a week to figure out it wasn't SARS they found but something new. It took an other 2 weeks to know how this was spreading and what the health risks were. They closed Wuhan down on the 20th in januari. Donald put a travel ban on China the 30th.

    And THAN... mad man Donald send at least 2 planes INTO Wuhan to fetch American citizens in februari.
    It was Donald, who on march the 13th tweeted that it's less deadly than the flu, and that we should all go to work etc.

    And suddenly it's.. ups... 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from Donald.
    Freaking forklift trucks are used to pile up the corpses in 18 wheelers next to the hospitals.
    It's the US who refused to get it's act together.
    Donald failed the US with his bad calls and fake news.
    He played his fans like suckers. And they don't even mind.
    It's incredible. This goes down amazingly well in history books. Mind you. lol
     
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    Indeed. The entire idea that the US is going to do it's own manufacturing is preposterous.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Wait a minute you are pleading ignorance of the fact that Dems criticized his travel restrictions? Trump "played it" as his experts advised him. And they were right. Did he come out and create a panic, of course not and you would have been criticizing him for that had he done so.
     
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    But....but...but.....TRUMP
     
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    And WHO was defending China and going along with the no human to human, it's just a pneumonia

    WHO Defends China’s Repeated Coronavirus Diagnostic Changes Despite Hubei Health Official’s Complaints

    The World Health Organization said China’s third change to its coronavirus diagnostic process in just eight days was the “best possible decision,” despite a health official from China’s Hubei province claiming that the government was not being transparent and accurate in reporting case numbers.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news...es-despite-hubei-health-officials-complaints/

    Watch for your self, video not in format to embed.


    World Health Organization continues to praise China's response to coronavirus outbreak
    Mar. 31, 2020 - 5:31 - WHO would rather deny Taiwan's existence than offend the Chinese government; reaction from Gordon Chang, author of 'The Coming Collapse of China.'
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6145893048001#sp=show-clips



     
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    I have seen a lot of people on here claiming that Biden criticised the travel restrictions - but when I researched it, I could not find that Biden commented on the travel restrictions at all.
    Oh, there were lots of RW echo chamber headlines claiming that Biden criticised them - but Biden’s words didn’t mention the travel restrictions at all.
    Maybe someone else criticised the travel restrictions, but I haven’t found it so far.
     
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    FYI the Covid virus and the Influenza virus are not the same. A Cold virus can "act" like the bad flu too.
     
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    You mean Fox claims that China claimed it's not transmitted from person to person.
    Yeah... I'm go to say no on that.

    A Chinese doctor found this illness on the 30th of december. The reported it to the WHO the next day. Something like 5 or 7 of January, they figured out it wasn't SARS but something new. It than took less than 2 weeks to figure out what it was, and that it was contagious and deadly, hence the lock down of Wuhan on the 20th of January.

    And that is how it is.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/timeline-china-coronavirus-spread-200126061554884.html


    Also. It's not the WHO fault that Taiwan isn't recognized. We all agreed how and when to recognize a nation. WHO can't change that. And still the US refuses to recognize Palestine, despite the UN says it exists. So you know... petty politics.
     
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    It wasn't Fox News...it was teh WHO that made the claim: review their tweets...in particular from Jan 15: https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/1217646741677166593
     
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    Oh I read there that they are saying... THERE IS NO EVIDENCE... that it can transmit like that. That's not denying that it can not be like that. Just a lack of evidence.

    Really? Is that it? Failure to understand rather plain English? Sounds more you're making up fake news to push this agenda to blame foreigners when we all know Trump said it wouldn't be so bad, that he had this hunch, not as bad as your random flu, it will vanish, lets open things up at Easter. Donald lied to the US. And you lot swallowed that obvious fake news as the truth. And here we are...
     
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    I agree, we need to shut down state borders. We also need to shut down greyhound busses and passenger train and light rail lines that go between distant cities. We also need to be helping people with their healthcare costs, even the uninsured, to encourage them to get care early before things get too severe and they start infecting more people.
     
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    Shut down borders? Isn't that racist?!!!
     
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    China should not be exonerated for scamming Trump regarding the severity of the virus, but some will, inevitably, try to divert all responsibility from Trump and his fake claims that he had it "under control" after his intelligence services had alerted him to Xi's having understated the threat, and epidemiologists had been cluing him in as well.

    The contrast of the current plight of the U.S. in stark contrast to South Korea's preventing such a disaster by its leaders taking prompt and responsible measures cannot be blamed on China.

    We need to confront the truth, and assign all responsibility to where it belongs.
     
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    Your link doesn't say a doctor discussed it on the 30th, but merely reported it to the WHO that day...it had been going on for sometime prior to that.
     
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    Depends on the reason you are doing it I guess.
     
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    Yes, they were repeating the lie spread by the Chinese.

    Of course Trump was saying he didn't believe it would be so bad...that was the news reported by the UN. It will vanish, and never said we would open things up by Easter, but that he hoped to.

    He never lied. The Chinese did.
     

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