USA not 1/1000th of the way through the Pandemic.

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    We've been a highly litigious society my entire life and yet we don't shut down the country every flu season, even though the flu takes tens of thousands of lives every flu season, even with a vaccine.
     
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    It's one body at a time draped crosswise over the forks. At least it saves the laborers backs, and at least it is into a reefer van trailer. I guess they will stack them in layers as needed. Sad. But this is not the first time in the USA.

    Nobody's going to break the lock and climb up in to search the pockets of those departed folks.
     
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    The whole point of the thread is to demonstrate that the Corona Pandemic is NOT just a "Bad-Flu". Don't like my numbers, fine. But any way that you seriously try to do a total death projection, without some miracle medication, or a vaccine, this thing is going to cost more American Lives than all of our wars combined!

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    Good Morning America on ABC opened up their 8am broadcast with “Coronavirus has killed more than on 9/11”.
    HEY GENIUSES!!! The flu kills more every year than 9/11 you opportunist aholes!!!’
    Why the heck are these journalists doing? How irresponsible. What good does that statement make then twist a number into something we accept as normal. Obviously it’s going to be worse but why? Why the scare tactics? I can’t listen to these people. And 1 minute later they shift to stay tuned on “How to do cool backgrounds in Zoom”

    WTF???
     
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    I dunno about you. But I personally want my mother, when she passes away, to not being dumped by a fork lift truck in an 18 wheeler to be hauled off to who knows where, like a dead piece of cattle that nobody wanted.
     
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    Keep her away from the Chinese Virus
     
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    With the shut down in place, thanks to a lot of governors, not thanks to Donald, we're looking at a possible 100,000 to 240,000 deaths. Without those measurements from those governors it could have been in the millions. That is according to the aides of Donald himself, during a press conference headed by Donald. They also said, thanks to the closing down by the governors taking action, it's preventing a kewl million deaths. That's thanks to the governors.

    So them journalists you are scorching are actually doing a good job.
    Donald claimed on march 9, with only 22 dead... that we had to think how little that is compared to the 90,000 dead by your random flu. Donald lied, Perd, he flat out lied. You don't go from 22 to roughly 220,000 in a couple of weeks without flat out lying. People were dropping dead all over Italy and China at that time. Donald is just side show bob ranting fake news. His new lie is, I didn't know on march 9, I was lied to by the Chines. Yeah, lets blame non white foreigners. See how this goes down by the GOP.
     
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    There is no data that means anything about the death rate. We don't know how many infections there are so the calculation is meaningless.
     
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    Nor can you nor I predict the final death count.
     
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    There is a veritable **** load of data about the death rate and the infection rate. You can quibble about the margins of error, but it is absolutely untrue to claim that any calculation is meaningless.
     
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    it's called the GOP hoaxus.
    March 9, it was just 22 dead. 90,000 die from the flu... think about that.
    Yeah, we're suddenly thinking it's not going to remain 22, but suddenly its around 220,000 dead.
     
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    On march 9, Donald the idiot at the helm, tweeted to think about the flu killing up to 90,000 people a year and we're just at 22. As in, this won't be that bad at all. You know he meant it like that.

    And he lied. he flat out lied. There was a massive amount of data from Italy. China also gave a grim outlook.
    And you deffo could have known all that too. It hit the international news all over every day!!

    So now it's suddenly maybe we be hitting 220,000 dead... with all them lock downs in place.
    Without them lock downs.. it could have been millions of dead.
    You know who put them lock downs in place in the US? It wasn't Donald!
     
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    Everyone was saying it was just a flu including left wing news agencies like CNN, and those who weren't, were saying we were heading towards a zombie apocalypse.

    How many of these people are GOP?
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    Kids will gain more useful knowledge being out of school for months than they probably gained over the past 3 or 4 years.
     
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    BILLIONS!
     
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    Trump has saved millions of lives. You don't have to appreciate that, but you should be very thankful that he hasn't sat on his ass like what happened when the swine flu hit us.
     
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    sounds like he lost your vote, a dam shame, I always though you were rock solid in his corner. what a quick turn!
     
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    How long do you plan on pretending like it was only the GOP who failed to see this coming?

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    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loc...-chinatown-amid-coronavirus-concerns/2241075/

    Coronavirus FEBRUARY 25, 2020 1:25 AM
    Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco’s Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco’s Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there’s no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area out of fear over coronavirus concerns. Mark Matthews reports.

    "Everything is fine here."

    -Nancy Pelosi February 25th, 2020
     
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    You are dead wrong. The death rate is calculated by diving the deaths by the number of infections. We don't know what the number of infections are. We only know the number of people who have tested positive. That vast, vast majority of people have not been tested.
     
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    Oh, humor we with a link.
     
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    That's the same with every virus infection!
     
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    A) Your formula is wrong. Mortality rate is determined by dividing the number of dead by the number of resolved cases (cured + deceased) over a specific period of time and then expressing that as a number based on per capita basis.

    B) We have millions of data points from across the world that informs the true infection rate. Even when it comes to viruses that have been studied for decades, like the flu, you use the exact same method to get an estimate for the number for the actual infected. The margin of errors for those viruses is smaller than the one we will have for covid, but that is the only difference.
     
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    "If we keep the number at or below 100,000 dead Americans, then we have done a very good job."
     
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    If we act with near perfection (i.e. everyone self-isolates, non-essential businesses remain closed, and educational facilities remain closed for months), then we might be able to keep the number of Americans killed by Covid to around 100,000 - which is significantly more than any flu virus.

    Please stop engaging in this notion that covid is comparable to the flu.
     

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