Conservative Max Boots: The Worst President. Ever.

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  1. FatBack

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    I'll just make some claims and accuse you of "lacking integrity" if you have the temerity to ask me for sources, deal?
     
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    I'm totally behind Mr. Donald J Trump! I think that he has been doing a fantastic job, in the midst of this Chinese inflicted pandemic - crisis...

    (much better than the "our" State governors)
     
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    :roflol:

    I really don’t care what you do tbh, ask for sources and I am glad to provide them.
    Start the insults, deflection, projection and gaslighting — and I am more than happy to play that game as well.

    I have never understood the desire to drop to such low levels of intellectual dishonesty; is it just confirmation bias, willful ignorance, trolling, or some combination of these? Any idea?
     
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    Yeh, I too think it is great he has told the states to deal with it while his administration outbids them for medical supplies, contradicts medical experts, and is rolling back federal environmental controls all while this is unfolding.
    His interview with the “My Pillow guy” and trump donor / fox news advertiser calling him“chosen by God” was such a beautiful speech that we all needed during these times.

    Such a great president*

    MAGA
     
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    Baloney, he was on top of it when the Democrats were downplaying it. I notice no one blaming Trump can point out exactly what he should have done differently, or they use hindsight to justify their criticisms. An actual timeline which shows Trump most likely saved a lot of lives by his actions at a time the 'experts' were claiming this was no worse than the flu.
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/3...top-of-it-while-biden-was-mocking-the-danger/
     
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    (whatever dude... Glad that U got your 'tripe' off your chest... so to speak)
     
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    Gaslight much? How about you take a look at the chart of the Fed rate and tell me what it looks like between the Obama years and when Trump took office. Corporate tax cuts resulted in higher overall government funds and created a better environment for businesses to move back to the US. Good environmental and pollution controls, lol. You mean those Obama over-burdensome, over regulated, abuse of power regulations? Getting rid of Obama's attempts to kill our economy was a big part of the reason the economy took off so well.
     
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    It’s amazing that anyone still thinks that trump is anything more than a self serving fraud.
    The little virus is challenging the whole world and trump is showing everyone what a petty and little man he is.
    He is the most unfit potus in my lifetime.
     
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    I am not sure you know what the word gaslight means.
    The fed rate was raised because we were not in a recession, start by comparing times when we were not in a recession. Dis you really think you could pull that level of dishonesty off?
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    I have already posted numerous sources showing why the tax cuts have caused more damage than they solved, feel free to ho a few posts up.

    As for the environmental regulations, I am talking about the two that have been enacted since the pandemic, namely rolling back efficiency standards for automobiles that numerous auto manufacturers have said was a bad decision and the decision to roll back all environmental regulations as the EPA will no longer be enforcing any instances of non-compliance.


    Would you like to try again because your first attempt failed miserably.
     
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    So you just parrot fake news that fits your agenda and deny everything else?
     
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    So... thier platforms trump this National Emergency. Gotcha.

    It would seem to me that we'd be better off if the Dems stopped playing politics and actually get thier asses to work helping with this virus instead of sitting in thier own crap filled diapers.

    The only "Democrat" that I've seen attempting to help is Bernie Sanders. And he's not even a real Democrat. He's a Socialist using the Democrats platform to help get elected.
     
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    Such an intelligent and well derived sourced response. Whatever is a teenage girl’s response when she has no argument.

    Your intellectual narrative should be contemplated and admonished by us all.
     
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    Do you feel the trump administration’s recent actions of outbidding states for medical supplies after telling states basically fend for themselves “do their part” is “get[ting] thier asses to work helping with this virus”?

    It is absurd that states are bidding against one another to begin with and only driving up the prices of these needed supplies, almost like we need a central government buyer or office to actually lead and buy the goods at cost and then distribute them as needed and where needed.
     
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    Yeah but for that, we would need someone who thinks we’re all in it together instead of someone who says you’re on your own and I’m looking out for number one.
    What a tragedy to have such a crippled soul trying to run the show at this important time.
     
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    I have questions on that. Are they actually bidding against each other (state vs fed)? Or do you think that maybe they're going to different companies? For instance, Trump went and got the My Pillow guy to start making supplies even though they normally don't even handle such supplies. Same with General Motors. Now I don't know who all each state is trying to contact for supplies nor do I know every business that Trump's team is trying to contact. I doubt the media does either.

    But for now I will note that you responded to a post that was not talking about anything you wrote here. Should I take that as an attempted deflection away from what I was talking about?
     
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    Apparently the person doing the actual work on rolling out equipment and support is........

    Jared

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/jared-kushner-coronavirus-aid-trump-governors

    Yep! The 39 year old real estate salesman is supposed to be co-ordinating the federal response
     
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    First off it is Max Boot not Max "Boots".....you apparently never heard of this guy. He is a never Trumper and a rabid globalist. Not that it would matter to you because you just saw a negative article on Trump and decided to go with it.
     
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    I know you are a Trump hater but could you at least hide your glee at the thought of "bodies stacking up"?
     
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    As your chart shows, the rate was near zero for Obama's entire admin and then shoots up just as Trump wins.

    And there are links that contradict yours.
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-proposed-trump-tax-cuts-affect-economy-4120649
    Total tax revenue continued to go up after the cuts
    https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

    So you're so worried about mpg standards which won't take affect for a couple years? Considering the cost to auto manufacturers, don't you think it odd that they would support this? Obviously they don't support it because they are oh so concerned about the environment. Maybe it's because it kills their competition while doing little for us poor folks who have to get by with smaller, under powered cars. I know he reversed the Obama order to allow the EPA to consider CO2 a pollutant. Otherwise, it is only temporary through the COVID19 pandemic.
    https://www.ibtimes.com/epa-wont-enforce-regulations-during-coronavirus-crisis-2948013
     
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    Not deflecting from anything, you stated that the Democrats are playing politics when it is mostly Democrats in charge of states that are taking this the most serious. I believe it was you that said both parties are to blame — which I agree with — and we should not be pointing fingers yet here you are doing what you denounced earlier. Just found it strange.

    As for your question:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/competiti...creates-bidding-war-medical/story?id=69961539
    https://wfpl.org/federal-government-outbids-kentucky-for-medical-equipment-amid-shortage/
     
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    This will be over any moment and will disappear like a miracle.
    It was contained at 5 cases.

    No one is gleeful that people are dying, it is more like a we told you so, your ilk and dear leader failed to listen, now here we are.
     
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    What bodies stacking up? The virus is a hoax to make him look bad. trump said so back when he should have been taking it seriously and you people ran out to buy more guns and ammo and ridicule the pansy liberals as a knee jerk response.
    Now suddenly you’re worried? trump is way more than a day late and a dollar short and his supporters will likely bear the brunt of his bullshit response. I suggest you people get on Twitter and tell your great orange hope to uncork his cowardly head from his ass and stop thinking about how things make him look and do his job as the nations top public servant. Unfortunately, trump can’t lead, he just brays like a preening popinjay and expects people to be appreciative that his ignorant bullshit is killing them.
     
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    Obama was dealing with a recession that was handed ofd by the prior Republican administration. trump was not. Not difficult to understand, well... maybe it is.

    Auto manufactures compete on an international scale where efficiency matters.
    It places them at a disadvantage to have multiple standards, maybe read up on it if you are actually interested in their reasoning instead of guessing.

    As for the “temporary” (it doesn’t have a sunset date) license to pollute — do you know how long poly and perfluoroalkyl chemicals contaminate a body of water?
    Do you know how dangerous PM2.5 is and how long it stays in the air?
    Do you care?
     
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    I disagree. The only reason he gave for his opinion is that Trump blames others. This is a minor character flaw. What matters is what presidents do, not what they say.
     

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