Concealed guns should be illegal

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  1. Quasar44

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    I live in a city with the one of the highest rates of concealed guns along with mental illness and thug behavior in the world

    I think concealed guns does zero to help anyone and people are more likely to use their gun on innocent

    I support guns but concealed guns should be illegal
     
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    Guns only belong at home
     
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    If anyone REALLY was interested in "founder's intent" handguns could well be otside of 2nd amendment coverage arguably. Most crimes involving guns, involve handguns, concealable handguns.

    IMO an argument could be made that ALL rifles, including "assault rifles", "select fire" (fully automatic), and submachine guns are covered by 2A. Military weapons across the board, shoud be legal.

    Handguns aren't that useful for anything beyond killing and strongarming other pepole. You can't seriously hunt with a handgun. If you need a home defense gun, you're better off with something ie a Mossberg 500 pistol grip anyway.

    I know I will get much crying and gnashing of teeth over my opinion, but oh well ,tough, you're not gonna convince me we wouldn't be better off if handguns were gone, and alll rifles of any kind were legal. We'd be in a much better place.
     
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    Interesting you mentioned high mental illness rates but totally couldn't care less about addressing that issue. As usual, laser focused on the object. And yet ALL mass shootings involve mental illness.
    Instead of attacking Constitutional Rights, how about focusing on the real problem of bad anti-Conservative policies that go easy on violent criminals and create
    tons of fatherless children that grow up with little or no guidance and no discipline?

    Hand guns do not get up in the morning and decide to go murder people. People do. It is only an object. It requires a criminal or mentally ill person to pull the trigger.
    As usual with the gun grabbing crowd, the root issues are never addressed and the law abiding are always required to compensate for and accomodate the criminals.

    BTW, in self defense situations, especially for women, trying to use a long gun for self defense in situations outside the home is a ridiculous suggestion.
    Most gun grabber comments totally ignore women's needs for personal protection. Conservatives and the 2nd Amendment care for women's safety.
    It's terrible that gun grabbers would suggest 95lb ladies should have to face several large, violent savages with their bare hands.

    If ever anti-Conservatives decide to truly address the issues of horrible policies that foster and encourage criminal activity, then at that point the nation can have a serious discussion about guns.
    Until then, I don't care what makes you feel personally comfortable. Tough. Leave my Constitutional Rights alone.
    You're never gonna convince me we'd be better off with no hand guns while horrendous, criminal coddling anti-Conservative polices create a society full of savages and predators where in situations outside the home prey on the small, frail and physically weak. Ladies would face the most peril w/o hand guns.

    However, I do agree that law abiding citizens should be able to own ANY long gun they desire.
     
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    You only need a home revolver for self def

    Real men fight with their bodies
     
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    Half the pop of my city has severe mental illness and low IQs
     
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    Have guns at home
    Concealed guns must go
     
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    A revolver.....how can you possibly assess the tactical needs for every home invasion situation? You can't. Hope you see the absurdity

    Again, you ignore women. That after it was extensively mentioned. That seems very sexist.

    Apparently you expect small, frail women (or the elderly) to fight off any number off much larger savages, bare handed. Again, I hope you can see the absurdity there.
     
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    And you remain there because ........
     
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    She can take Krav and a good groin kick will win
    I was beaten up dozens of times by the same women in BJJ class
    She was a beast and even beat up half the men lol
     
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    This could very well happen under Democrat or Socialist regimes.
    But you can forget about it as long as anyone respecting the Constitution is in the WH.
     
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    3 reasons. !!
    1) job
    2) weather
    3) good MMA training
     
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    Good, you learned to respect women.
    Still, she was VERY rare.
    What about the other 170 million women?
    What about the elderly?
     
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    I am not banning guns
    I only said home only
     
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    And she once body slammed me and later busted my finger up lol
    Keep in mind she was super nice and cool
    Her boxing sucked but she could kick azzz in bjj
     
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    There are many good MMA studios outside of Miami or wherever you are in FL.
    There is good weather all the way up to Orlando year round.
    Run for office and clean the place up. If AOC got elected, you can. Make a difference.
     
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    She fights on the local pro wrestling circuit in the SW lol
     
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    I am in the other mentally insane state
    Las Vegas lol
     
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    I am in the desert
    In Vegas : 3/4 of the pop is broke and 1/2 are drug addicts
     
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    Ok. One woman out of millions. I get it.
    If you were in good shape or bigger it wouldn't have been so easy for her to throw you around. lol

    What about the other 200 million who aren't into BJJ?
     
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    That women must have submitted about 30 times and I only got her once
     
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    I am 6-1 and 155
    If I was 195 I would win lol
     
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    I hear ya.
    Pretty good place except for the people?
     
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    I'm sensing you are reminiscing fond memories :p
     
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    Sir , it’s not cool to be picked up and body slammed like Hulk Hogan
    I was so tired I could not fight back
     

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