Why Trump will lose.

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Are all Republican led states opened up? If not, there clearly there are Repubs who also want a longer shutdown.
     
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    Is Maryland a RP state? Is Hogan a Republican? ;-)
     
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    Vegas betting odds still favor Trump
    It costs $125 to make $100 on Trump while a $100 will get you $125 on Biden.

    Both the polls & Vegas were wrong in 2016, but Vegas odds are not partisan as some polls.

    I have said all along, this election is not about Biden.

    It is ......

    Trump supporters
    Vs
    Trump Haters

    If Biden wins, it will only be because there are more Trump haters than Trump supporters.
     
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    Yeah at least Hillary wasn't both corrupt and losing her mind, not that Biden ever had much if one to lose.
     
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    Sorry, living life in fear is possibly the worst thing a person can do. If I get the virus then it is what it is. There is even a chance I've had it already. I'm certainly not afraid of it. I've been through a lot worse.
     
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  6. ECA

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    What does that have to do with what I asked? I’ll ask again...
     
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    Maryland is a DP state with a RP/RINO governor. He has apparently imposed a $5K fine and jail for going out w/o a mask.
    I assumed you knew about MD and that your question was rhetorical.
    Republican politicians are not dependable guardians of constitutional liberties.
     
  8. ECA

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    Then why do people only keep accusing Dems as being the ones who “don’t want to open up”? Clearly it’s not just Dems.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meh. Predictions this far out are meaningless. We still have a running mate unpicked, months of debates, a virus that isn't following any of its projected curves, an economy that is either going to bounce back or collapse by then and a nominee who's mental faculties are degrading right before our eyes almost as fast as the guy who 'chose poorly' in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.

    If this november is anything like 4 years ago, not even the polls that come out the day before the election are going to mean much.

    But by all means: predict away!
     
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    People tend to accuse the Democrats because so many Democrat pols have been very opposed to ending the economic shutdown.
    I suppose that makes it difficult for Democrats to criticize Republican pols who oppose ending the economic shutdown, and the ordinary American conservatives, Democrats, and Republicans who want to open up the economy are generally ignored by the MSM until they show up at a state capitol with guns.
     
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    But again, clearly many Repubs are opposed also based on the number of Repub led states that are still shut down.
     
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    IF we were having Trump rallies right now, you could show us how sick of him they are.

    IF you had made the same claims about the democrats in general, you would be spot-on.

    As it is, it seems you are listening to democrat propaganda telling you how democrats are sick of Trump, and that he's taking us the wrong direction. That IS propaganda, from people who intend to use you to gain power over you- by feeding your own weakness with false promises and lies.

    That would be solely because of their own dissatisfaction with the world not bending to fit them- because they aren't willing to fit themselves into the world. Far too many promises of socialism, the concept has infected them like a disease- called total irresponsibility.
     
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    Well so far we have one...
     
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    Incorrect. There are still a number of states that aren’t fully open.
     
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    partially open vs locked down tight. You're reaching.
     
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    Haha
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    All of them favor Biden. Rasmussen, Trump's favorite, has a 23 point spread favoring Biden. Rasmussen's methodology is land lines, which favors older people, who are mostly republican. The only cell phones they consider are those that call in from the web, and that demographic tends to be politically active people, and that group tends to be over 65, which tends to be republican. So, Rasmussen, unquestionably under samples democrats and over samples republicans, and they give Biden 23 points.

    You need to accept the truth.


    It's a good bet that a majority feels the country is on the wrong track.
     
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    I think it's probably a mistake to equate right-track / wrong-track polling with "favoring Biden". As evidence, back in late 2012, when Obama was winning re-election, most voters thought the country was headed in the wrong direction. In fact, the majority has felt the country has been on the wrong track for most of the last couple of decades.
     
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    Thanks for the admission.
     
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    Biden's worst case in the EC is 278.

    Biden could easily break 300 EV.
     
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    Of course. Republican pols are stinkers. They just stink a bit less than Democrat pols, ands there a few good ones.
    IMO, without Trump the RP would be in the ash bin with the Whigs.
     
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    What did you think Hillary's worst case was?
     
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    Once again you’re confused
     
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    Another confession thanks...
     
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    2. An approval rating poll is not much to go - specially so far before the election.

    1. There is fatigue in general. The Anti Establishment movement is big on both sides and decided the last election imo. Trump managed to capitalize on this by casting himself as AE. Was a smart move.

    On the Blue side - Hillary alienated the AE Bernie Sanders voters. Not that these folks ran out and voted Red but - many sat on the couch.
    In addition - Hillary was a terrible candidate in other ways - condescending arrogant nails on the chalkboard demeanor - no plan -nothing to vote for - all she did was go "Bad Trump .. Bad Trump" like a parrot on a broken record.

    Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turnout-2016/index.html

    What more can we say ?

    This time is much different. Hillary is not running. Bernie crowd was not alienated .. on the contrary - looks like Blacks and Latino's are united behind Biden .. and they seem motivated to vote.

    Then there is the demographic time bomb which has ticked by 4 more years in Blue's favor. More young blue and more dead Red.

    The above and healthcare being put front and center due to Covid ... It will be very difficult for Red to win this one.
     
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