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  1. TOG 6

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    It's irrational to cower in fear, as you do, and as you demand of the rest of us.
    ... by the fact that most of the 8 million people tested had symptoms - which, of course, means the number of people who have/had the virus is --higher- than the number indicated by testing.

    This means the death rate is LOWER than the 14/10000 indicated by same.
     
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    Ok... and?
     
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    That actor was 42. NO previous health issues

    JS
     
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    Ok... and?
     
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  5. Lesh

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    You don't have to die to have this thing do horrific things to your body
     
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    Continually living in fear of catching the Chinese virus may be far more damaging to one's mental state than the virus itself.
     
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    And so, you irrational fears take on another facet.
    Whodathunk?
     
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  9. Lesh

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    Your lack of knowledge duly noted.

    Blood clots and the associated damage they cause are a major issue. Lung damage,strokes and even loss of limbs have happened.
     
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    80,000 dead says there's nothing irrational about it

    We SHOULD be afraid of this thing
     
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    Why do you believe the state should force the rest of the country should abide by your irrational fear?
     
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    With a ~0.14% death rate?
    Wut?
     
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    You almost missed the whole decimal point.
     
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    The CFR (mortality rate) is currently 5.6%. It MAY eventually go down as low as .9%, THAT is a horrific number in itself

    NO responsible person is claiming it will ever be as low as ,14%
     
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    Did I say "equally" dangerous?

    I did not?

    Then why would you claim I did?
     
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    Your words: All you are doing is pointing out how dangerous this this is for everyone.

    If it is dangerous for everyone, and it is, then Seniors are not being 'targeted'.
     
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    Incomes are replaceable, human lives are not.
     
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    There is a balance between the two, it's not an absolute one way or another.

    Human lives require the food and shelter, or these can cease. Unless one makes a change to socialism, money or a method of exchange, usually obtained by working, is necessary to eat and have shelter.

    Both are not necessarily replaceable, or irreplaceable.
     
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    There should never be an equal balance in the choice between commerce and human lives, never. It should 'absolutely be absolute' -- human lives prevail in importance.
     
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    You know this number is wrong, because you know this death rate does not include all cases of CV19 infections.
    Why do you keep repeating a number you know is wrong?
    Why do you expect the state to force people to abide by your irrational fear?
    I'm sorry you don't like simple math, but the simple math says ~0.14%
     
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    You do not actually believe this , because if you did, there'd be SO many thing you'd demand we ban.
     
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    I take it all our leftists slept during those portions of their history studies that covered what life was like for the average person under the Great Depression. Misery piled upon despair doesn't even begin to cover it. But here our political Left is . . . practically demanding that the average citizen of our nation live through that many years long horror.

    So let's dispense with this farce that our leftists are just that inately afraid for their lives or -- for that matter -- that they actually care what happens to the average person; because clearly neither is true. Inside the United States mostly our leftists demand to indefinitely extend enforced isolation for political reasons. If they can make it happen while somehow blaming it and the resulting economic destruction on Trump then -- and only then -- do they have a chance to get creepy and senile Joe Biden into the Oval Office. For our political Left what this is about -- and this is all it's ever really been about -- is the extension of political control over this nation . . . and the inevitably destroyed economy and resulting horrors inflicted upon the nation be damned.
     
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    How many people do you personally know that has had Covid-19? I personally know three that have had it and one died. So don't pontificate on my behalf because I know better than you do what it's like living inside the Petri dish. Am I afraid for my life and that of my husband? You bet your butt I am.

    The shock to the global economy from COVID-19 has been both faster and more severe than the 2008 global financial crisis and yes, even the Great Depression. Biden is going to win this election, at this point in the way Trump has handled this pandemic, there's no way he can win re-election. Trump, Barr and Mitch McConnell will try every dirty trick in the republican handbook, but Trump will lose anyway. Average Americans are a whole lot smarter than you give them credit for.
     
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    So you insist that cars, swimming pools, sugar, caffeine, all drugs, bread & all other carbohydrates, butter, nuts & hundreds of other items be made illegal immediately, yes?
     
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    Beat me to it.

    The logical disconnects are incredible.
     

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