Michael Flynn: judge pauses justice department effort to dismiss case

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/12/michael-flynn-case-justice-department-dismiss

    Well Done Judge Sullivan! He is obviously well aware of the political undertones at play here, and seems to have high regard for the Rule of Law. It is obvious he is going to be hustled by Fox News and Flynn's Attorney. Best of all, I reckon he is sending a very strong signal to the politicians.....'Get out of my case!'

    Not so fast there, Flynn.
     
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    I predict Judge Sullivan is going to get his butt handed to him on appeal. He's way off the reservation and everyone who's not stridently partisan knows it (and those who are know it too, but they're less willing to admit it publicly).
     
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    Very good job here by Sullivan. The decision is in his hands and he is going to want some answers.
     
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    If DOJ isn't willing to bring charges, the cases is de facto dead. And given the fact that DOJ wanted to dismissed with prejudices, the cases is dead.
     
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    Judge Sullivan has now basically shat on his own court, with the new orders. https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1260705216829239296 The irony of all of this? 48 hours earlier, guess who railed about perjury(which the DOJ didn't even originally charge). One former President Obama!

    So A: Get out of here with 'political interference', the judge is clearly for it some times, and against it other times. B: That Obama has such political sway, brings to mind the testimony during the closed House committees: "One administration at a time"(even though the Transition is recognized as such.)

    This gets to the bottom line that not only was she SUPPOSED to win, but they never acknowledged the Trump government and STILL don't acknowledge it.

    Basically, Obama sieg heil. That 's what this court order amounts to. We still have not escaped the Obama Regime.
     
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    I suspect this will backfire on the left.
     
  7. Bush Lawyer

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    Self evidently not.
     
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    Do Courts prosecute cases Down Under?
     
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    Another instance of the court taking over another branch's authority. Normally prosecutors bring charges and they're part the executive branch. Who's the judge to insist on prosecution after the prosecutor drops it?
     
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    So you good with an innocent man going to jail?
     
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    Can this Judge act in bad faith? Oh, he can absolutely act in bad faith(and please, the notion of political bias is absolutely gold and ridiculous coming from the "should we get him to lie" crowd). The DOJ can make any argument it wants, and it is not swayed by anything.

    I think the easiest thing to do would be to release any communications by Jenson and Barr(though they shouldn't have to), concerning A: Jenson's appointment and B: Their daily communications throughout the case, just to demonstrate without a center of a doubt that there was no "political interference."

    And I do suspect this will be done, since this is the second time Barr's reputation has unfairly come under attack after releasing 99.7% of the Mueller Report. There's only so long AG Barr will continue to take these personal attacks lying down IMO.
     
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    It would be interesting if Sullivan held Flynn in contempt for lying under oath in Federal court. Hilarious.

    But seriously, Sullivan is giving government attorneys and Barr a high profile opportunity to violate ethical tenets and lose their license to practice law.

    He wants Barr’s arguments aired in a hearing and placed on record in a Federal court.
     
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    By violating judicial ethics. A writ if mandamus will be entered if Sullivan does this. Judges are not ring masters.
     
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    With regards to this Authoritarian Court, just remember that the "sails of the wind" can easily target Liberals. All conservatives would need to do is find a conservative leaning judge vengeful enough and motivated enough. We don't wanna go there as a country, but this opens up the door for it.
     
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    Do the Democrats really want more stuff coming out on them? I for one would like to know what Strzok and Comey's justification was for wanting to continue investigating Flynn after the FBI found no evidence against him.
     
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    I think the judge did us a favor. The more the Flynn case and the stuff around it is out in the news the better.
     
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    Barr should fire the judge.
     
  18. Bush Lawyer

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    No, but when someone who has entered a plea of guilty and is about to be sentenced, tries to reverse that plea, no Court rubber stamps our 'DOJ' suddenly getting cold feet. It has to be totally justified and explained to ensure there is no skullduggery (especially of a political kind) going on.
     
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    Nope, but Flynn admitted he lied. He cemented that admission with a plea of guilty while armed to the teeth with Attorneys.
     
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    Seriously? You don't know what a plea deal is?
     
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    'Armed to the teeth', ROFL, LMFAO, OMFG. Yes, he was armed to the teeth with 'attorneys' who made a deal with the prosecution, BEHIND his back so as to effect the plea agreement to begin with.

    That insinuation is as awful as everything else about this case. 'American justice' is a fraud. Now I know how most non-violent offenders felt with their cases.
     
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    Fine, tell Durham the gloves come off... if the federal judge is gonne play politics...

    Capital treason all the way around.
     
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    Sullivan better tread lightly. Trump is not playing checkers when this is a game of chess.
     
  24. Bush Lawyer

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    Yes, and if a plea of guilty emerges from it, it is an open admission of guilt, made to the Court, to the relevant charge.
     
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    Ah, I see. You say Trump IS in this game of attempted Judge hustling?
     

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