How many Covid deaths are acceptable

Interesting read:

https://theconversation.com/masks-h...vernors-to-require-public-mask-wearing-138507

 

They are here. The first day they opened restaurants at 25% capacity limit, my boss took his gf out to eat. Two weeks later, hair salons and barbers opened. The boss got a haircut the first day. He was frustrated at how difficult in both cases it was to get a reservation for either. Everyone is jam packed with reservations and appointments.

Mortalities from the virus in Texas are largely from a failure to realize the risk to nursing home residents early enough. Everyone knows that now.

 

What? Is there an unwritten rule somewhere which dictates we can't enjoy family time because we also have jobs?

This is too desperate. Tone it down, Love.

 

We'll see. When every other person could be infected, we'll see how reckless the American people are.

 

Australia was no less reckless, they just were blessed with good demography. Australians also love their individual rights...

 

I see that Australia's New South Wales reopened bars and restaurants yesterday, with capacity limits. The Northern Territory opened bars and restaurants yesterday with no customer limits.

Australia is on a 3-Stage Plan to reopen everything by July. Perhaps their economy will recover quickly now.

 

So why did you root for the shutdown to continue 12 more months? Pick a story and stick with it. Your lies catch up with you.

 

1,000 to 1500 new infections per day in Texas

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

2,000 yesterday

And gee ...who knew that nursing homes were at risk huh?

You guys are really on top of things eh?

And oh yea...testing in Texas is among the worst in the nation

 

Compare the infection numbers and testing in Oz to say ...Texas...and then think about what you posted

 

At least Cuomo has finally stopped sending Covid positive patients back to nursing homes. He only had to kill 5000 old people to figure out that was a bad idea.

“As a society, you can’t save everyone. You’re gonna lose people, that’s life,” Cuomo told reporters amid reports of nursing home deaths exceeding 5,000.
"Last week, though, Cuomo issued a new directive stating that hospitals cannot send patients back to nursing homes in the state unless they tested negative for the virus. The move appeared to largely invalidate his March 25 state directive that required nursing homes to take on new patients infected with COVID-19."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-cant-save-everyone-as-critics-claim-language-coronavirus

 

That's great news! A smaller and smaller percentage of Texans are testing positive as time passes.

Yesterday, there were 1,347 new cases in Texas. 5% of those tested positive; 95% are testing negative. That's a new low. We're only testing people with symptoms.

Texas Positivity Rate compared to Tests Reported:

 

Of course as noted...testing in Texas is woefully inadequate

 

Have other states? Because that's been the practice pretty much everywhere once a patient is stabilized.

 

We all know that people at end-of-life in nursing homes are at most risk of death. Only people with their heads in the sand haven't seen the nursing home statistics across the country.

Texas, at least, started isolating Covid nursing home residents from others on March 15. Unfortunately, we weren't really aware of asymptomatic transmission from nursing home staff until around that time frame.

Gov. Abbott has done a fabulous job trying to protect end-of-life seniors from getting infected with Covid. They are more likely to pass from other natural causes.

Of course, it's all a numbers game, isn't it? If you want your state to have fewer Covid deaths and a normal amount of "other cause" deaths, then you protect the nursing homes from Covid as best you can. It you want an excuse to beg for free federal relief funds, then you throw infected seniors in with non-infected residents and try to drive up the case counts (like New York and California).

Luv my Gov. He's proactive:

 

Well, then. Just be happy you live in New York under Gov. Cuomo's terrific leadership. I'll stick with Texas, thank you very much.

 

Not here in Texas. Not in Florida.

 

Why does it matter what the death count is? Considering the incentives pressuring an over count of the deaths, bureaucratic for CDC and financial for the hospitals, can we ever discover the ACTUAL numbers? Or must we fixate on garbage in/garbage out data?

 

Australia has 5 million fewer inhabitants on more land....in the middle of the ocean. Not really comparable.

 

Right. We won't know for a couple years the true increase in overall mortality.

The last year the CDC has somewhat completed counting final mortality was 2017. Mortality was fairly "normal" that year with 863 deaths per 100,000. 800-900 is a typical year before Covid.

We know heart disease, cancer, and respiratory illness like COPD are way down this year so far. We haven't found any miracle cure for any of those, so there is no reason for those decreases other than counting "Covid" as cause of death.

By the time CDC compiles and completes this year's total mortality statistics, it will be 2022 or 2023.

 

And this virus hasn't replaced ANY of those. In fact in some cases it has ADDED to those..as well as adding what will shortly be 90,0000 deaths

 

There really aren't actual incentives. The 39k is bundled in to control costs.

 

You seem hell-bent on calling the US out. Did you have your popcorn out just waiting for something? lol
Of course we got things wrong with Covid, as we have with many other things.
...but total fail? no.

 

Asians are practically born wearing masks, Its ingrained in their culture. Covid or no Covid, you couldn't pay me to live in a place like Vietnam.

 

Agreed.