A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

The McMichaels were not cops, so your video is totally irrelevant. I would have told them to **** of my face as well.

 

completely irrelevant to the fact he was murdered by McMichaels, who had zero authority to try and detain him.

V

as he should be. He has a constitutional right to not be subject to unreasonable searches and seizures. The cops in that video had no cause to stop him.

 

Unfortunately no one else knows what breakins Greg McMichael is talking about. Not his neighbors. Not the police. No one.

And Greg may have seen Arbery on video surveillance. Although since there is zero evidence of Arbery committing a break in on any video, it sounds like he was just seen in the neighborhood.

It isn't uncommon for criminals like McMichael to lie or mislead investigators.

 

For your edification:

Georgia laws -- which allow civilians to pursue a suspect if they see a crime being committed and make an arrest until law enforcement arrive -

The video showed Arbery jogging toward a parked white truck where Gregory McMichael is allegedly in the flatbed and armed with the .357 magnum handgun.

Arbery is seen running around the truck on the passenger side, according to the video.

As Arbery emerges from in front of the truck, he and Travis McMichael are seen tussling with the shotgun, which in total goes off three times.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/events-leading-arrest-men-murder-ahmaud-arbery/story?id=70576804

And I put the question to the readers that if these yahoos pulled up to you, would you allow them to "arrest" you? I don't think they were going to have Arbery sit on the pavement while they stood guard waiting to call in the cops, do you? None the less, the whole think stinks to high heaven, and another black man is dead thanks to individual white hubris regarding the law.

 

Like I told a like minded compadre of yours:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ts-labeling-t.571873/page-178#post-1071703563

 

Really? Produce otherwise than what is said here: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ts-labeling-t.571873/page-178#post-1071703563

 

No one? You're certain of that? How'd you reach that certainty?

 

For starters, the law, reproduced below in its entirety doesn't say anything about "wanted by authorities".

 

And in response to this question:

Yes, that's exactly what I think they were intending to have Arbery do. Greg McMichael called 911 himself, right before the fight over the shotgun started.

 

What offense did Arbery commit in Greg's presence or that he has knowledge of. He hadn't committed a felony and he wasn't trying to escape from them. So what part of that statute are you trying to use?

 

Not very smart advice.Getting testy with the cops almost
never ends well.
Getting testy with a couple gun-toting White Crackers is
normal Americana and often warranted.But what Ahmaud did
was not get testy with the McMichaels.He RIGHT QUICK went straight
for their weapon and tried to disarm or take it from them.
Also not very smart.
All's that missing in this case is some witness swearing they
saw a thick rope with what looked like a noose in the back of that
pickup.

 

He told the police that he had knowledge that Arbery was the suspect in multiple "break-ins".

 

Looks to me like Arbery committed assault and battery.

 

He was arrested again and put on probation for stealing a flatscreen TV

That probably explains why he was trespassing in a home he had no right to be in.

 

Thus far, the only person in this story with a criminal history is Arbery, AFAIK.

 

Yeah ... how rare for a Black to bolt and leave the scene.

 

He was arrested in that video where 2 Cops detained him
and attempted to Taiz.? I musta missed that.

 

Explain criminal.Did he have a rap sheet.
And did the McMichaels.

 

https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/court-of-appeals/1992/a92a0423.html
"
2. We agree with appellant that as a matter of law it owed appellee no duty to confront or arrest the couple she was accusing of stealing her wallet. The alleged crime was not committed in the presence or within the immediate knowledge of Arrowood or any other employee of appellant, and thus Arrowood and other employees of appellant were not legally authorized to arrest the alleged criminals. OCGA § 17-4-60. Indeed, the only person who could have effected a citizen's arrest was appellee herself because she was the only person who "by the exercise of any of [her] senses. . . ha[d] knowledge of *311 [the crime's] commission. [Cit.]" Johnson v. Jackson, 140 Ga. App. 252, 257 (230 SE2d 756) (1976). Nothing in OCGA § 51-7-60 suggests that a merchant is authorized to detain or arrest persons accused by business patrons of committing crimes against the patrons, since that statute expressly involves only the limited right of a merchant to detain or arrest a person reasonably believed to have committed the offense of shoplifting as defined in OCGA § 16-8-14.
"
^ Crimes must occur in the immediate presence of the person to do the seizing.

Its not a lame dodge, its something so bone deep simple that it amuses me that you consider yourself educated enough to have this discussion.
Its part of the use of reasonable force requirement. Is it reasonable to attack someone for resisting your citizen's arrest when you haven't let them know they're being arrested?

What does a cop do when he places someone under arrest, does he let them know they are under arrest? Note: I'm not talking about then mirandizing them. I'm talking about stating "I'm placing you under arrest".

 

You mean the one where the cop that tried to tase him was later fired and a bunch of cops in that department were rolled up for being friendly with dope dealers?

 

Its not just crimes. Its commission of a felony that they are then FLEEING IE a crime occurring presently not in the past.

 

Arbery had a rap sheet, yes. To the best of my knowledge, neither Greg nor Travis McMichael did.

 

Duly Noted .

 

Sure it is. They came up with guns to a guy jogging down the road, and held him against his will.

I can assure you, when you kidnap me with a gun in your hand I won’t come easy

 

Because reporters and police could not find any record and the McMichaels haven't been specific on any other incident. I bet if there were a theif they would be one of the locals.