A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. Reality

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    Under the CA statute he did not have the grounds to do so because the alleged burglary he's detaining him for happened months prior.

    Is it? What felony did he have the intent to commit therein? How do you form that reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion? What specific facts allow you to form this idea?
     
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    Chasing him around the neighborhood in pickup trucks is more than enough. The guns as well.
     
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    Of course he did, he was in the process of a current crime, remember, he had plenty of RGTS.
     
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    No, that wouldn't be a felony, would it?
     
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    And that's what I thought. None of the pro racists are able to justify their position in support of this criminal with the law and the video.
     
  7. Reality

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    And what specific facts does Greg allege let him know that Arbery was in process of a current crime, that crime was a felony, and Arbery was fleeing the scene, when he passed him on the street? Recall: GREG doesn't know at the time he gives chase that Arbery has been at the construction site that day. He only knows about the tapes which 1) don't show a crime but 2) even if they do show a crime they show a crime which occurred months prior to Greg encountering him.

    for that matter, what was the current crime he was in process of on the day of death?
     
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    Reckless driving is indeed a felony
     
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    1. Of course they did
    2. No it was a house, it was burglary
    3. See 1
    4. Burglary, he entered with intent to steal, what is your problem with that?
    5. Yes it is, he was scoping the place.
    6. It was the previous footage and he was summoned by the neighbour, you getting confused, it's very understandable, happens a lot.
     
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    Really, define reckless?
     
  11. Reality

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    Do you want me to just quote the drubbing I gave you yesterday chief?
     
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    Please stop making up facts. To brandish a weapon you have to point it at someone. Read the law. The video proves that never happened. Neither was the road blocked. The criminal proved that by being on the road and going around the truck. And no one shot anyone until your criminal attacked.
     
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    LOL Go ahead. I'll be happy to educate you once again.
     
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    Burglary, he was fleeing the scene after trespassing with intent to steal, recall, Greg had been summoned by the neighbour
     
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    Neither is trespass.

    Let’s say I assumed you had drugs in your vehicle, could I shoot you then after blocking the road if you did not comply with allowing me to detain you?
     
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    Prove that his intent was to steal.
     
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    Not trespassing, this was burglary. What grounds do you have to suspect my possession?
     
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    With wanton and willful disregard to the safety of others.
    It is a statutory crime in every state, and in numerous states it can be either a misdemeanor or a felony.
    In a goodly number of states, driving in excess of 15-20mph over the speed limit qualifies per se.


    Not to mention: Since I can see you doing it, it could be a misdemeanor and I could CA you for it were I able to bring you to a halt with reasonable force. Seeing as how the only way likely to do that would be to increase my rate of speed in excess of yours and cut you off likely causing a collision, its not going to be reasonable for me to stop you.
    I can call the cops though.
     
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    Don't have to, RGTS
     
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    As these men did and then attempted to detain him for the police without endangering others. I don't know why you want to crucify them so?
     
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    1) not according to Greg at the scene
    2) I like how you tried to dodge the questions: "It requires you enter a particular sort of property (and its unclear an open construction qualifies but let's assume it does for argument's sake) WITH INTENT TO COMMIT A FELON THEREIN. If you think it only requires 'intent to steal' then quote the statute. Note: Criminal trespass also requires you to break or steal $500 worth of stuff. How does anything get charged as criminal trespass when the same elements would apply to burglary under your conception? See how that doesn't make logical sense? Dead give away you've got it wrong."
    3) See 2 which you've continued to dodge. .
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    4) Burglary requires intent to commit a felony therein, you cannot say the felony intended therein was burglary that's a circular, recursive loop of illogic. So WHAT FELONY was he there with intent to commit?
    5) 5 months of visits and nothing was taken. The homeowner says he appears to have been getting water from the tap then leaving immediately. Its not reasonable to assume theft is the intent when he never takes anything and has numerous opportunities. Its not plausible that he would take nothing in all that time but still have the intent to commit felony theft therein."
    ^ You didn't answer 4 or 5 at all. Try again.
    6) Greg tells the police that he's standing in his yard, Arbery passes him on the street, and Greg gives chase having seen the night tapes and thinking Arbery is the same man. Greg does not tell police that he was summoned by the neighbor to see Arbery off the property and give chase. You can read the police report ffs dude, I don't know why you're spinning this tale. Greg was not summoned to the property the day of.
    I love how you admit the key fact: The crime he suspected had occurred months prior, if it occurred at all see other discussions about how its neither criminal trespass or burglary under the facts we have, not presently. Therefore the CA statute does not give him the right to chase. Period. End of story.
     
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    Arbery
     
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    So were the whites that entered burglars as well that intended to steal.
     
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    So you think 2 men that murder a man and were arrested are being railroaded. Smfh.
     
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