To those of you who are wearing masks in public.

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I choose not to live the rest of my life walking around with an obstructed airway, just as I chose not to smoke disgusting cigarettes.
     
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    Not the point is it? The vast majority of those folks DO commute by subway and have no other means. Shutting it down means that all those facilities are crippled.

    Can't imagine how you missed that...unless it's because you choose to.
     
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    If you don't like wearing a mask, you're going to hate wearing a ventilator.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not me....I'm looking out for those with leftists d
    I know your ideology....if you don't support the growth of government then you don't care about others regardless of what you do as an individual. I just think that is pretty stupid. In this case, you think I am negligent of others because I don't wear a face mask even though I am seldom within 6 ft of strangers. You're just a goody two shoes who wants everyone to dance to the tune of a belligerent overriding central government. I see that as pretty stupid.
     
  5. dagosa

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    I know what I don’t know, you on the right don’t . Like Trump, that makes the right dangerous Delusional leaders for those under their control.

    So, a goody two shoes is someone who seeks the most educated advice by those most qualified to give it. I ways raised to do that. Your advice comes from......what ? You can think for yourself ? So, you must repair your own car, operate on yourself and have a fool for a customer and patient.
     
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  6. WillReadmore

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    I'm not sure what you're point is here. Cuomo isn't allowed to shut down international travel. He's not in a position to do screening at the airports, either - that is a TSA function. Of all those flights, your article points out that a far larger proportion went to the key airports in the NY area.

    Scientists have looked to see where COVID has come from. They can do that, because vaccines are constantly changing in small ways. The vast majority of the USA is infected by strains that came from Europe, and NY/NJ were the main recipients.

    Cuomo (and NJ) have done a remarkable job of reducing COVID. The people have done what they need to do under his leadership. Now Cuomo is helping other states.
     
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    I view it as a sign of respect for all those who come in contact with me in public. I see it as a way of showing people that I care about them and myself. It is a simple thing to do that says so much about oneself and how you view others in a community.
     
  8. dagosa

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    A month ago, I ask who was going to get the medical attention during a pandemic. Well, the poor, the elderly, the illegal and under deserving certainly shouldn’t, cried the right. Well you got your wish. While we are now the epicenter of the pandemic waiting for a vaccine. Now you have to ask yourself, who will get immunized ? If it does not include everyone.......what do you think will happen again one year later ?
     
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  9. WillReadmore

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    I get it.

    It is definitely the case that what passes for a mask today can be pretty much totally ineffective. And, it seems like decisions made by people have more to do with social pressure than respect for science, respect for others, and a rational approach to fighting this threat.
     
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    Did you read the rest of your link?
    Kristen Knapp, a spokesperson for the Florida Health Care Association, which advocates for nursing homes, said the state put its stricter protocols for handling positive cases in writing on May 5 and some facilities may be less able to meet those requirements to care for positive residents.
    “Now there is more clarification," Knapp said. "We now know that residents will be transferred out of facilities that are not capable of adherence.”



    You stated this was being done across the nation. And all you have is a link showing nursing home patients testing positive for Covid being transferred to hospitals for treatment and then transferred back to a nursing home, after receiving treatment.

    Nowhere the same scenario as NY.

    You have failed to support your claim. Sure, an apology from you would be great.
     
  11. Arleigh

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    Since you cannot be bothered to read links, Cuomo reduced the number of subway trains running, Before the shelter in place, and caused more crowded conditions which led to higher transmissions. If the shelter in place order would have been issued sooner, then those more crowded than usual subway conditions would not have existed.
     
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    I've been wearing the mask in public lately but then I realized it's just me alone at home. I can't give the Wu-flu to myself from not washing my hands every few minutes can I?
     
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    Ah, yes you can. Most assuredly yes. Obviously you wash your hands at home after you have been in public and touch anything publically available, like a door handle or gas pump handle.
    And, anything you touch that is delivered to your home.
     
  14. Arleigh

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    ‘My point has been simple- being critical of the POTUS during this also includes being critical of Governors and Mayors in the hot spots during this crisis.

    ‘Cuomo had methods to reduce the spread and he failed.

    The Mayor of San Francisco and the Gov of California have done a vastly superior job than Cuomo.
     
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    Guess you haven't been listening. Do you know the science of disease spread ? . NYC is the most densely populated area subject to travel from infected areas. Like, you expect Utah to have the same infection rates ? California was benefit from the Chinese air traffic blockade and is much more spread out. Most travel by car vs subways in nyc. It’s the fed That dropped the ball by not blocking air travel from Europe to nyc,
    You think nyc has failed. Look at the infection rates NOW compared to the Midwest.
     
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    You can't catch a disease that doesn't exist.
     
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    You've swallowed the hook haven't you? It's not the super disease the alarmists are shouting about. It's a flu that kills old people who were about to die already.
     
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    I'm sure many people in the West are frightened (and possibly ashamed) by their nations' respective failures to do what has been done by much poorer and less powerful nations in the East. I empathise totally. When my own Govt initially appeared to be dropping the ball Europe/US style, it was deeply disquieting. An awful, frightening, epiphany that the nation I'd long imagined was reasonably smart and capable of protecting its citizens, wasn't any of those things. It was most unsettling, and had the effect of making people here feel quite insecure.
     
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    Why? I mean, why did America never ban travel? (both in and out of country, and domestically)?
     
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    That’s a ...... statement. Everyone is about to die. You think you have a guarantee at 50 you’re going to live longer then a seventy year old ?
     
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    You forgot Cuomo didn't shut down NYC public schools.
    Trump is a moron...

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    ... and we need to get him the hell out of office.
    Don't elect him President. :rolleyes:
     
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    "shelter-in-place" was never ordered in NY or any other part of the USA
     
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    That first statement is TOTAL nonsense. The job and tools of the federal government are NOT the same. And, as owner of the bullypulpit, the president has the power to defeat our state fight against COVID. The president also has powers such as the CDC, FEMA, the Defense Production Act, international and interstate transportation, and the ability to deficit spend that are critical and that states do not have.

    You are not looking at the stats, either. NY and NJ have made a remarkable recovery. If you extract their amazing success, America is still growing COVID cases at a constant rate of increase - this nation has NOT made the progress made in NY.

    We do not yet have it under control to the extent NY does, even though the NY region was hit harder than anywhere else.

    And, we are STILL not getting leadership toward combatting COVID from our federal level!!
     
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    Michael Moore gives a pretty good description about the overt gun crowd that he knows personally. He’s calls them “ Bambee” shooters......all bark, no bite.
     
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    I don't have a crystal ball, but I do have an Asia. Once it becomes culturally acceptable (and expected) to mask up if you're feeling even slightly unwell, the habit stays.

    We don't go to stores, restaurants, or 'any place people are gathered together'. If it's crowded enough to warrant masks, it's definitely too crowded for us. Luckily we don't live in a city, so crowds aren't a thing here :p
     

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